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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:05, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Kotta[edit]
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Fails WP:FOOTYN. Has not played a match yet. Vanadus (talk | contribs) 23:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete No sources and very minimal. Naomib1996 (talk) 12:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 17:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Argyle 4 Lifetalk 18:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Seems to have played (http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.joueurs..kotta.144490.en.html), but there is a significant lack of coverage MadCow257 (talk) 18:10, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:16, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lady (rapper)[edit]
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Fails WP:MUSICBIO Vanadus (talk | contribs) 23:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - FailsWP:MUSIC. Not notable. Minor coverage. Too soon. - SummerPhD (talk) 01:22, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - this is not a notable person so i think this article should be deleted. Tony (talk) 21:54, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Can't find evidence of a charted album or song, or news coverage MadCow257 (talk) 18:16, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:16, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
List of Northern Electric Radio[edit]
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- Delete per the "spirit" of what WP is not. It is a list without annotations. A list of this type is best suited to being written in prose. Also the article name is not very good - there is an unrelated Northern Electric and the caps and grammar is wrong. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 23:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Not because of the problems raised by the nominator, which are fixable, but because the article provides absolutely no evidence that any of these radios are notable, collectable, historic, or in any way worthy of being listed in an encyclopedia. There is also a complete lack of context; it's not even clear who or what "Northern Electric" was (a little sleuthing suggests it was a forerunner of Nortel). BTW someone might want to nominate Northern Electric phones for deletion for the same reasons. --MelanieN (talk) 04:09, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. The delete commentators say that he doesn't have multiple, reliable sources backing him up, the keep commentators say he doesn't, but that doesn't matter due to his status. His status does not fall into one of the categories of "people excluded from the general notability guideline", and this is thus irrelevant; Doctor Blofeld notes that "I don't see much difference between this and a lot of US biographies on minor sportspeople and local governors", and I don't either, but until we have an individualised exception from WP:N for police chiefs, that argument doesn't hold a lot of weight. Ironholds (talk) 10:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
J. T. Alley[edit]
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No claim to notability is given in the intro other than "police chief of Lubbock, Texas." Does every police chief need an article? Jsharpminor (talk) 23:06, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak delete. Sourcing is two obituaries (which say nice things, as obituaries tend to, but aren't substantial news coverage), a record of death, and a dead link to what looks to have been photographs. While a police chief of a town like Lubbock runs a decent chance of having notability, I'm simply not able to find any sources supporting that possibility in this particular case. All the news mentions I can find are just that - mentions, in the style of "police chief Alley said [blah blah] about case [blah]" - and not substantial coverage. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - No real assertion of notability (police chief of Lubbock is not enough), and coverage in reliable sources is insufficient to support retaining an article. cmadler (talk) 09:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete As per above, the obits and sourcing available does not meet WP:BIO/WP:GNG, and no indication this meets WP:N any other way. Novaseminary (talk) 16:14, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep per "He was one of the founders as well as a President of the Texas Police Chiefs' Association." A state police association should be notable, even if not every chief is. I don't see much difference between this and a lot of US biographies on minor sportspeople and local governors. I do sort of frown against the overfocus on less known biographies in the US when we are missing much more notable biographies from countries outside the Anglosphere but I think this does have some claim.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:21, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Page is already well written with some citations. Has several things which make him notable enough to warrant not deleting. MadCow257 (talk) 20:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Sourced and sourcable to more that just obituaries. Was respected and oft-quoted in his field. Made major contributions to Texas and law enforcement. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:29, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment But which sources are sufficient to meet WP:BASIC? Is it just you feeling he is notable, or do you think the subject meets WPs notability criteria? Novaseminary (talk) 03:28, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, although it is a marginal case. J. T. Alley's long service is interesting, and certainly it would be appropriate to mention this individual in the Lubbock, Texas article, an article about the Lubbock Police Department, or in a list of presidents of the Texas Police Chiefs' Association. But I just ran through a Google Newspapers search on Alley's name during his term as chief of police, and there were only nine mentions, all having to do with flags on uniforms. Doesn't seem to meet the notability threshold. Neutralitytalk 17:27, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- weak Keep Police chiefs in large cities have always done sufficiently controversial things that they are notable--it goes with the job. . Lubbock is a small city (220,000) but home to as very large college (Texas Tech,)--a factor which always increases the police activity and significance. There are at any rate enough sources for WP:GNG. Normally, round here, people thing meeting the GNG settles the issue, but WP:LOCAL is one of the exceptions that is considered to over-ride it in a negative direction. I can see the logic of that--and indeed things that fall under LOCAL are where I tend to be a deletionist. But the restriction is really arbitrary and amounts entirely to a judgement call in each case--if we want to exclude an article like this, we say the importance & sources are only local; if we want to include it, we say they're wider because of one or another reason. I could construct an argument that would convince myself either way on this one. DGG ( talk ) 18:31, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. People seem to be confused - the Texas Police Chiefs' Association is a professional association, not a government agency. There are a very large number of professional societies and associations in each state. In Texas there must be at least 300 or more. There is no reason to believe that everyone who serves a one- or two-year term of any one of these is per se notable Neutralitytalk 19:44, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- To further Neutrality's point, this group is not covered in WP, and the only mention of it on WP is in this article. Of course, maybe the group is notable and WP is lacking. But there is no reason to believe that there is any consensus that being the head of this group nowehre else mentioned on WP conveys automatic, inherent notability on WP. Novaseminary (talk) 04:10, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep by author. Notability (statewide president of Police Chiefs Association) and self-evident. Article well-written. Billy Hathorn (talk)
- Comment Well-written, says the creator. But where are the RSs? Every flavor of N requires RSs or very good reason to believe they exist. What guideline does this meet? Novaseminary (talk) 04:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete for lack of independent reliable sources establishing notability. I tried a Google search, but I couldn't find any mention outside Lubbock and environs (except for the AP news story printed in the Charleston, SC News and Courier listing the subject as one of many advocating for the right of policemen to wear US flags on their uniforms). Richwales (talk · contribs) 05:47, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. It's fairly obvious that either canvassing or outright sockpuppetry was going on here, but even after that is filtered out there is still a consensus that the subject is sufficiently notable for an article, although in need of some rewriting. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:19, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Avaya Unified Communications Management[edit]
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- Delete. Non-notable software per WP:GNG, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:PRIMARY. See also my discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Avaya 9600 Series IP Deskphones. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 22:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep informatrional not promotional WP:NOTABLE review notable refs. 108.110.185.190 (talk) 07:22, 11 August 2011 (UTC) — 108.110.185.190 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Comment: This "keep" vote is from the author.
- Delete Jsharpminor (talk) 07:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Just found this error after checking into my hotel, I am not the author 108.110.185.190 (talk) 07:43, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Point taken. However, you've been editing a whole bunch of Avaya articles that are all AfD'd. Just wanted to let other editors know about the potential conflict of interest, whyever you may have one. Cheers, Jsharpminor (talk) 07:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Tanks - I'll ask author 108.110.185.190 (talk) 07:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Point taken. However, you've been editing a whole bunch of Avaya articles that are all AfD'd. Just wanted to let other editors know about the potential conflict of interest, whyever you may have one. Cheers, Jsharpminor (talk) 07:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Just found this error after checking into my hotel, I am not the author 108.110.185.190 (talk) 07:43, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep the Unified Communications Product family has a long and notable history. Signficiant information is being added to the page to make it substantial, educational and informational not just bullets. There are several other pages on similar subjects with less content than this such as CiscoWorks with only bullet points and are not WP:NOTABLE that have not been nominated for deletion. Let's make sure that Wikipedia remains democratic and fair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.199.68.157 (talk) 17:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC) — 216.199.68.157 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Delete far too much primary content only lightly reworked to avoid copyvio. If competing product suites have not yet been AfD'd that shouldn't influence discussion here. - Pointillist (talk) 22:12, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The article provides good information about Unified Communications and is corroborated well by good references.Hence definitely a Keep — Preceding unsigned comment added by Machismo500 (talk • contribs) 03:43, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The artice has been edited to remove any spurious marketing material and now provides both substantive and WP:NOTABLE content. This article is now all original work, and I cannot find any examples of similar copyright work. As noted by the external references by independant third party authors the product line is notable and innovative. - ManagementMan (contribs]) 02:38, 13 August 2011 (UTC) — ManagementMan (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Keep Text in the article that would appear to be marketing or promotional such as Comprehensive or Innovative web based are actually corroborated in the references from indeoendant authors included in the Article if you actually take the time to read them all. This is a notable and well written article with many references. I would question the judgement of anyone deleting this article as it stands now and leaving a simple bulleted page like CiscoWorks as the user above mentions. - 71.81.24.12(contribs) 04:38, 13 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.81.24.12 (talk) — 71.81.24.12 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Keep, as this article is well-written and notable enough to have its own article and is one of the booms of Avaya, in opposite of my votes on other Avaya nominations. This-one should stay, IMO. ~ AdvertAdam talk 09:22, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Undecided This might be the one exception to my recommendations here and here that every item in that Avaya template should be deleted (without a redirect) in a mass housecleaning, and the various product lines should get a simple mention or at most a paragraph at Avaya. However, if kept this article needs to be trimmed by about 90%; it is a bloated mass of technical detail. Wikipedia is neither a sales catalog nor a technical manual, but that's what most of these Avaya articles appear to be. --MelanieN (talk) 05:00, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, Well written with lots of references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigtex 1 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per nom. I'm also worried about the number of contributors to this discussion who appear to be unfamiliar with normal wikipedia processes such as signing entries in discussions such as this. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep 15 valid citations with separate authors are cited from within the article establishes WP:NOTABLE and this software has 15 years of history. I found thousands of additional citations within google searches and will add if needed. Geek2003 (talk) 04:02, 17 August 2011 (UTC) — Geek2003 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Comment Closing admin: most keeps are SPAs involved in editing Avaya topic of questionable notability. Was going to non-admin close keep until I verified this.--Cerejota (talk) 05:22, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/ManagementMan has been opened.--Cerejota (talk) 05:34, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep. I'm concerned that the article reads much more like a product brochure than a dispassionate discussion, and that many of its writers and defenders seem suspiciously CoI'ed. However, given the numerous references to the subject (or, at least, to one of its component parts, formerly called Optivity) in the books and magazines cited as sources, I feel forced to acknowledge that the subject does seem to satisfy our notability criteria. If the article is kept, though, it still needs a lot of paring down. Richwales (talk · contribs) 05:58, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe the article should be renamed after it's former name, if that's the name it's more commonly known as? There does seem to be quite a bit of renaming in this group of articles. Stuartyeates (talk) 06:45, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Lots of issues so understandable it ended up here, but regular editing can fix that. Szzuk (talk) 11:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete, technically speedy delete. The only editors who have added substance to the article have concurred in its deletion. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 20:53, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Polar Mobile[edit]
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Unremarkable company with no substantial references offered to assert notability. Article creator is a marketing intern at the company (see Google) so clear COI Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 22:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree about the COI Bob, but after looking through the article and references, I would say that this company is not unremarkable. It is definitely going places. I edited this article slightly as well to make it a bit more substantial. However, I will let you and the other administrators do what you think is right. Thank you. Buddy1965 (talk) 00:39, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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This company is on the Deloitte Canadian Fast 50 company list- it's pretty noteworthy. In my opinion, it would be unwise to delete this page when the company is growing that quickly and gaining so much attention.Buddy1965 (talk) 01:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Inclusions on lists of similar business do not count much for notability, especially ones that have 49 other non-notable businesses on them. This is a mobile solutions provider. Leaving aside the fact that the description begs the question, "Mobile what?" a description as a "solutions provider" is an automatic breach of neutrality policy and grounds for speedy deletion. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the input. I would like to point out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Systems, because I don't understand why this page has not been tagged for deletion yet Polar Mobile's has. It clearly states, "July Systems is the leading provider of cross-platform mobile solutions to businesses worldwide. The cloud -based mobile platform allows businesses to build, manage, market and monetize rich mobile experience easily, quickly and cost effectively." It seems strange to me that promotional pages are left like this while other company pages with a more neutral tone are tagged for deletion. Just something to consider, even though I don't think it will make a difference. Thanks again, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 15:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Alas, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/July Systems. I agree; that article needs some serious scrubbing. The existence of other articles generally is not a strong argument for including another, and the fact that there are dozens of spammy articles out there that should not be taken as models of style or content is one of the reasons why. If this business been recognized as genuinely remarkable so that it's had had significant effects on the development of technology or culture, go ahead and add them; but stuff like making a Top 50 list from an analyst firm does not establish any of those things. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comments. I'm glad the other article is being edited/deleted. I am able to give evidence of this company's significant effects and being genuinely remarkable, which I will add shortly. Cheers, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 17:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I have added some references and information to the article that should prove that the company is genuinely remarkable. Please take a look at the references and let me know if I should change or add anything. Thanks, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 18:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. You will need third party references for those claims as well. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 19:10, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, can you clarify what third party references means? What has to be done for that? Thanks, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 19:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. You'll find an extended discussion at the Verifiability and Reliable source pages. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 21:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE. The IP address 64.34.71.100 (talk · contribs), which has made several contributions to this AfD discussion is registered to Polar Mobile. --Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 15:53, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This article is much more trouble than it's worth. I was not aware of how difficult creating it would be. Admin, feel free to delete this article along with all history of the page. Thank you, 64.34.71.100 (talk) 16:10, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please delete this article. I have read the COI page and I apologize for not knowing this before starting the article. In the future, hopefully an outside source will create the company page. Thanks for the help. Nicole.pitre (talk) 16:16, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - non-notable per WP:CORP, no substantial coverage by reliable sources to demonstrate notability. The company may be "going places" but it hasn't got there yet. If it does, then someone without a COI can create an article. There is no deadline. ukexpat (talk) 18:47, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the above statement ^. Buddy1965 (talk) 19:55, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 23:27, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Federico Viviani[edit]
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Appears to fail WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG Vanadus (talk | contribs) 21:51, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 17:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Argyle 4 Lifetalk 18:08, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep - needs more information. Tony (talk) 21:56, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment are you aware there are two Federico Vivianis;this one...who has sat on the bench for 1 game and a different one who has played many professional matches. --ClubOranjeT 11:38, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete this guys as WP:NFOOTBALL failure with little coverage, but happily support re-creation as the other one if someone has the time and inclination.--ClubOranjeT 09:52, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:17, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Avaya Energy Saver[edit]
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This product does not appear notable; the only references provided are not independent. See WP:VRS, WP:GNG, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:PRIMARY. Chzz ► 21:37, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. May deserve a mention in Energy Efficient Ethernet but a redir is not needed. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 22:51, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep informatrional not promotional WP:NOTABLE review notable refs. 108.110.185.190 (talk) 07:24, 11 August 2011 (UTC) — 108.110.185.190 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Comment: This "keep" vote is from the author.
- Delete Jsharpminor (talk) 07:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep appear WP:NOTABLE 2010 Winter Olympics games. LES 953 (talk) 12:36, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete None of the provided citations are from independent or reliable sources (with the possible exception of this from Network World). Google News finds absolutely nothing. But here's the truly scary thing about that page: look at the template box at the bottom of the page and you will find that every single piece of hardware or software manufactured by Avaya - every individual model of phone or server or router, every protocol, everything - has its own separate Wikipedia article! I seriously doubt if any of them are any more notable than this one is - probably less. Choosing Avaya IP Phone 1140E at random, it is completely unsourced and the article sounds like it is reprinted from the phone's instruction book. Someone needs to do a thorough housecleaning here; this is one of the most thorough examples of spamming I've ever seen. --MelanieN (talk) 04:31, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, Informational and not promotional — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigtex 1 (talk • contribs) 00:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per MelanieN and nom. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:25, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per what the nominator said and per MelanieN. Fails WP:N. Wikipedia is [[WP:NOT|not a mirror of the company's website]. Edison (talk) 20:29, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy keep, nominator withdrawn the nomination, only keep votes. This is a non-admin close. 123Ħeðŋeħøŋ456 : Create an account!! 12:37, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
SummerSlam (2011)[edit]
Note, nominator has withdrawn this deletion request, see below Chzz ► 12:27, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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PROD as "Future event, not yet notable; WP:CRYSTAL, WP:GNG" Chzz ► 21:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment By the time this AFD has closed (assuming it last at least four days) it will no longer be a future event or violation of WP:CRYSTAL. Perhaps that reasoning should be struck? I think GNG can still be applied fairly. Hazardous Matt (talk) 21:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep – Don't see the point in deleting this when the event will be held in less time than it will likely take the AFD to close. By that time, the sources that cover wrestling figure to have more than enough coverage to satisfy GNG. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 01:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy keep per WP:CRYSTAL's first exception , which reads "Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." This event meets both of those criteria. Umbralcorax (talk) 01:22, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep per Umbralcorax.--Dcheagle 03:10, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Sufficient notability established for event that will take place in 3 days. Seems to be a bad faith nomination. GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep I think it has long been established that Chzz nominates WWE articles because of a personal grudge. AFD will close after event, hence bad faith nomination. Blocpark (talk) 08:26, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw requested deletion - apologies; I mis-read the date; I didn't realise it was just a few days away. Chzz ► 12:27, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:17, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Cath Long[edit]
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This person does not appear to meet the notability requirements for inclusion - see WP:GNG and WP:BIO - contested PROD Chzz ► 21:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: Subject appears to fail WP:BIO. Topher385 (talk) 20:14, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 00:59, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 23:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Brenna Yovanoff[edit]
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This person does not seem to meet the required level of notability for inclusion - see WP:BIO; contested PROD Chzz ► 21:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per lack of sources on both Google and Yahoo that support a biography. SwisterTwister talk 22:07, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The Replacement looks like it might be notable, per bestseller status, etc, but there's no sourcing to be found about the author herself. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:44, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Suggest a merger discussion be had on the article's talk page. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Punta Carnero (Ecuador)[edit]
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No evidence that this is a notable beach, reads more like promotional material for a beach. Possibly some of it could be merged to Salinas,_Ecuador OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Commentes.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punta_Carnero_(Ecuador) no body touches the one in spanish that has been up for a long time! donde es posible con nana en english y mucho en espanoL! muchos gracious! CliffC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonsairolex (talk • contribs) 22:06, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The Spanish Wikipedia is of not concern or relevance to English Wikipedia; they are entirely independent projects. I've already posted instructions on your talk page regarding how to participate in AfD discussions; please stop posting the text of the article in it's entirety here. OhNoitsJamie Talk 22:12, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- CommentThe Spanish Wikipedia is of not concern or relevance to English Wikipedia; they are entirely independent projects. that makes about as much sense as ,, ahh ... Bonsairolex (talk • the google automatic translator is a new invention and takes a spanish article to an eglish in a second flat!
- Comment What I'm saying is what happens on other language Wikipedias has absolutely no bearing on English Wikipedia. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:19, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - It does seem to have significant coverage from independent secondary sources, [1][2] thus passing WP:GNG. Reading more like an advert is a matter of editing, not deleting. --Oakshade (talk) 05:32, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Both of those are travel guides. It's not surprising that a beach would be listed in a book like that, but I don't think WP:GNG covers every single attraction commonly listed in a travel guide. I've already merged relevant material into Salinas, Ecuador; I'm not seeing why a beach needs it's own article. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:17, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Per WP:RS, travel guides are considered reliable sources for establishing WP:GNG as they are independent of the topic and there is editorial control over their content. You might not like certain types of topics being worthy of coverage, but that is not a basis of deleting articles.--Oakshade (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't see the word "travel" in WP:RS. I never said I didn't like the article. I originally tried to clean it up, before realizing there was little salvageable and moving what was salvageable to the Salinas article. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:RS doens't have to say "travel." That's silly game playing. It stipulates that sources independant of the article topic and that has editorial control over its content are considered reliable sources. If you'd like WP:RS to make an exception for anything travel related, you need to make your case on the WP:RS, not invent your own meaning in an AfD. --Oakshade (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- *Keep -I don't know why you want to delete this page. It has reliable sources (according to the Wikipedia guidelines), it doesn't host content that is in violation of copyright and it's not an original research. As for its notability, I think in this case it's debatable. For me, for example, Sylvan Beach, New York it's also very small and probably not vey important, but I don't think that its page should be deleted. Putting all Punta Carnero's information in Salinas doesn't seem appropriate. It would be like saying that the Sylvan Beach article should be deleted and all the information should go in Verona Beach State Park. It seems to me that this is more a case of not thinking it's important because it's far away in Ecuador. I think that the article needs improvement, but should not be deleted. Aestrella (talk) 00:01, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Bonsairolex (talkThis is an awesome quote, thanks for the support (someone in the community!! deleted my nice beach photos four times,... thanks a million User :Oakshade who spoke on the 11th of August 2011
National Arbor Day Foundation could be added to the Arbor Day but its seperte because it is, just because Ecuador is in South America gives you no authority to take and move Punta Carnero Beach to another community miles and miles away....Bonsairolex (talk This beach is not in Salinas Ecuador and would be like taking the National Arbor Day Foundation page and moving into the Arbor Day page, but you cant , BECASUE THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS; just like Punta Carnero is different from Salinas..
- *Keep Punta Carnero Ecuador South America!!!!!
This article relies on references to primary sources or sources affiliated with the subject, rather than references from independent authors and third-party publications. Please add more appropriate citations from reliable sources. (...this is what sould read on the top of the Punta Carnero Page......National Arbor Day Foundation, exactly what is on this page!...Bonsairolex (talk
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:31, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
T. Rafael Cimino[edit]
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I believe this is part of a hoax perpetrated to advance the notability of this individual. It was brought to my attention from the article Mid Ocean (now redirected), which contained a quote from the New York Times. A subsequent search of the New York Times' archives revealed nothing on this book, and nothing on this author.
Statements of notability made in this article and evidence to the contrary:
- According to IMDB, was not a contributing writer/producer for Lost in Translation.[3]
- Not a contributing writer/producer for A Love Song for Bobby Long.[4].
- Not a contributing writer/associate producer for The Other Boleyn Girl.[5]
- Not a contributor to Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.[6]
- Not a writer (or marine director) for Miami Vice.[7]
- "The New York Times described Mid Ocean as 'Miami Vice meets Goodfellas'". As stated above, nothing in the archives to confirm this.
- Cannot find any reliable information on the publisher of his novel Mid Ocean (BMG Publishing Group of Fort Lauderdale), nor any reviews. I also cannot find any reviews for is other ebook, Table 21.
I cannot find any Google hits on this individual that are not primary sources, spam or wikis, and no Gnews hits.
Akula Films appears to be a company of Cimino's own making, with no releases to date.
PendulumPost.com does exist, and he is listed there as a "Founding Member", but the website itself has no established notability.
Statements possibly establishing notability:
- I cannot confirm or refute the claim that Cimino won the APBA Offshore U. S. National Championship in 1982.
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- Delete as BLP violation. Asserted within the article are facts about association with notable films which cannot be properly verified. While yes, he may have written (at least) two books,[8] searches show that these do not have the acclaim that the article asserts. Fails WP:GNG. Fails WP:ENT. Fails WP:CREATIVE. Fails WP:BIO. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 23:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete BLP. While he did author a book [1], he does not pass WP:NN. He was also not involved in any episodes of Miami Vice. Either way - it is certainly not worthy of a WP mention. Srobak (talk) 03:35, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, assertions are not supported by WP:Reliable sources. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:18, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unable to find verification of the claims, nor any significant results about the subject - frankie (talk) 16:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: According to imdb at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1975915/, there is a movie version of Mid-Ocean in development with a $42 million budget. Interestingly enough, though, the plot of the supposed movie was written by "Andrea M. Cary" , who has no other edits to imdb and seems to be the same as AndiCary (talk · contribs). The Mark of the Beast (talk) 20:04, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Further comments: 1-There are many reviews of Cimino's books on Amazon, but, amazingly, every single one of the reviewers which I checked out has only ever reviewed Cimino's books (one of them is by Andi Cary). 2-His books are published by "BMG Publishing Group", whose address is 5810 n monroe st bldg 400s; tallahassee,FL 32303, that is a "virtual office". I can't find a website for them anywhere. 3- the akula films website lists Cimino as "the youngest member of the Cimino Family of American film producers". This reminds me of Rikki Lee Travolta. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 05:52, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. G7 does applu. Courcelles 00:49, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unsent Letter (song)[edit]
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I created this article after believing it was notable for appearing in a Triple J Hottest 100, but I've since been informed that it is not an acceptable chart on Wikipedia. Lachlanusername (talk) 20:55, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete as a G7. Article author/nominator is pretty much the sole contributor to the article, and can request that it be deleted without an AfD. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 00:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was deleted - G7. Black Kite (t) (c) 21:22, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Paul the monkey[edit]
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An article about a mascot for a defunct production company. No assertion of notability and no references. An earlier version of the article was speedy deleted and the author has removed the earlier prod notice on this version. Article clearly fails WP:GNG and it seems unlikely it will be possible to reach that standard - I cannot find any reliable references to this mascot. Palltrast (talk) 20:37, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete as promotion. The reason for the creation of this article appears to be to raise awareness for a facebook group. VQuakr (talk) 20:45, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- please delete. it is a bad artical, and I, the author, have no more use for it. Drlf (talk) 20:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 23:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Adamson Chronicle[edit]
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This student newspaper does not appear notable. I am unable to find any reliable secondary sources that discuss the newspaper itself. VQuakr (talk) 20:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, student publications tend not to be notable and this is no exception. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:12, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete insufficient details--Skylarkzoe (talk) 22:02, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - I didn't see third-party sources on Google and Yahoo. SwisterTwister talk 22:18, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Courcelles 19:45, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Auburn-Florida football rivalry[edit]
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This doesn't appear to meet the notability guidelines. I think it should be deleted or merged. Nathan2055talk - review 20:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep The article could certainly use some serious reformatting to make it cleaner and easier to read, but the content is certainly notable enough for inclusion. The rivalry was only strengthened and has become more notable in recent years due to the transfer of quarterback Cam Newton from Florida to Auburn, where he won a national championship. Jeick (talk) 20:27, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article does need updating, and I am in the process of doing that. I have already added a year-by-year game history and intend to make additional contributions/editions in the near future to increase the quality of the article. If there are any specific areas of concern I am interested in hearing them. The Auburn-Florida rivalry is a long and important one, like the Iron Bowl (Alabama-Auburn) and the Cocktail Party (Florida-Georgia), and like those rivalries, it deserves it's own page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgessner (talk • contribs) 08:00, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This article needs all sorts of work, but that has absolutely nothing to do with the subject game's inherent notability per WP:N. A simple search of Google News Archive starting in October 1912 reveals an amazing wealth of news coverage of this recurring rivalry game [9] (well over 700 separate news articles found in GNA alone). I'm afraid that this AfD nomination is more indicative of the nominating editor's inexperience than the actual notability of the article's subject. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Per all reasons stated above by Jeick, Rgessner, and Dirtlawyer1. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:20, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Cleanup is an editing issue, not a deletion issue.--Paul McDonald (talk) 02:33, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete - simple case of non-notable organisation. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:51, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Seabreeze Youth Orchestra of Huntington Beach[edit]
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The topic of this article seems to lack any significant coverage in reliable third-party sources. Jsharpminor (talk) 18:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Delete Does not meet WP:GNG, serious WP:COI (username blocked), reads like and advertisement. -- Alexf(talk) 19:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:45, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Cavottish[edit]
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Yet another in an infinite series of dog breed crosses. No references in reliable sources, contested PROD. Acroterion (talk) 18:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete for obvious reasons -- no reliable source coverage Anna (talk) 02:53, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Courcelles 19:38, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wind advisory[edit]
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Redirect declined twice. Not separately notable. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - I plan on fixing it up soon to match other articles that are part of the list of severe weather terminology in the U.S. It's notable on its own, it just doesn't appear to be the way the creator has written the article. Inks.LWC (talk) 22:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep/Snowball Keep per both above comments and obvious notability. I doubt anyone in the US is going to deny the notability of Wind Advisories, being that they are one of the most common NWS alerts. --Bowser the Storm Tracker Keeping skies bright Chat Me Up 03:11, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep I agree that this can be closed on basis of WP:SNOW --DeVerm (talk) 19:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Delete, this meteorlogic warning looks like just a normal warning. What's notable about it? - Nabla (talk) 01:55, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you kidding me? They are inherently notable. All other watches/warnings have all articles at this time, though this can always change. WP currently has an article for Tropical Storm Erick (2007) which is also weather related, something much less notable than this article. YE Pacific Hurricane 02:04, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- No... Are you? - Nabla (talk) 02:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I am not kidding either. All types of weather warnings are inherently notable. These are often mentioned in WP:TROP articles and could be wikilinked to. YE Pacific Hurricane 02:54, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought so. I am absolutely surprised that a "it will be sunny", or "it will be windy", or... whatever weather forecast is notable. Weather warning systems, are probably notable; but individual warning messages? Hardly more than a line in the warning system article... - Nabla (talk) 10:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment for Nabla's benefit, I'm including the navbox at the bottom of this discussion for anyone who would question that individual alert varieties are included. --Bowser the Storm Tracker Chat Me Up 12:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you. Looks like we have articles for "sunny forecast in the USA", "rain forecast in the USA", etc.. As I see it, it is excessive detail. But I also admit some of them are reasonably well written, for a nearly non-subject articlke. PS: And though not a good reason, yes, there are excessive details far worse than this one around - Nabla (talk) 13:09, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Just a comment - I really don't see how describing these articles as "sunny forecast in the USA" is really being helpful to the AfD (if anything, it devalues your !vote by implying that you're over-simplifying what the articels actually say), and comes across as condescending. Inks.LWC (talk) 22:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- «A Wind Advisory is generally issued [...] when there are sustained winds of 25–39 miles per hour [...]» and... that's about it. There is a warning if there is wind. It is simply that, it is not me simplifying. I understand you may have another viewpoint, and as such 'read' me as disrespectful. It is not my intention at all, and I may understand you. It is probably about the same feeling of surprise as I had when I stumbled upon this and I read comments that this weather warning is "inherently notable" and a "snowball keep". It will probably stay, given I was the only voice joining the nominator. But it certainly is not a "snowball keep". BTW, and being constructive: 1) the 'parent' article is quite fine; 2) may this become more than the current sentence plus a few trivialities? It does happen that one thinks something is unimportant out of his (mine) ignorance - and I do not know everything, that's for sure. Maybe this is the case? But the current article has nothing really, and should be deleted/redirected. - Nabla (talk) 00:01, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Just a comment - I really don't see how describing these articles as "sunny forecast in the USA" is really being helpful to the AfD (if anything, it devalues your !vote by implying that you're over-simplifying what the articels actually say), and comes across as condescending. Inks.LWC (talk) 22:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you. Looks like we have articles for "sunny forecast in the USA", "rain forecast in the USA", etc.. As I see it, it is excessive detail. But I also admit some of them are reasonably well written, for a nearly non-subject articlke. PS: And though not a good reason, yes, there are excessive details far worse than this one around - Nabla (talk) 13:09, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment for Nabla's benefit, I'm including the navbox at the bottom of this discussion for anyone who would question that individual alert varieties are included. --Bowser the Storm Tracker Chat Me Up 12:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought so. I am absolutely surprised that a "it will be sunny", or "it will be windy", or... whatever weather forecast is notable. Weather warning systems, are probably notable; but individual warning messages? Hardly more than a line in the warning system article... - Nabla (talk) 10:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I am not kidding either. All types of weather warnings are inherently notable. These are often mentioned in WP:TROP articles and could be wikilinked to. YE Pacific Hurricane 02:54, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- No... Are you? - Nabla (talk) 02:37, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- You are confusing "Snowball Keep" with "Speedy Keep". "Speedy Keep" would mean that this was not even being given discussion. "Snowball Keep" means that there is virtually or entirely no chance of deletion. In other words, "Snowball Keep" closes early due to an overwhelming consensus. so far !votes are 1-5 or 2-5 if you count the nom. That means that greater than twice the number of people want to keep it as delete it/more than two thirds/>67%. The idea is not that we would close without forming consensus like you would in a "speedy keep", but that we would close early because there is already an overwhelming consensus. Additionally, This is not a forecast of wind. Rather, it is the statement that strong wind has been forecast and is a problem. A forecast of wind would be something like
- FORECAST
- NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WIKIPEDIA
- 1200 UTC 13 AUGUST 2011
- SUNDAY: HI 79. LO 67. WINDS WSW AT 37 MPH. CHANCE OF RAIN 15%.
- $$
- where as a wind advisory would be more like
- URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
- NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WIKIPEDIA
- 1200 UTC 13 AUGUST 2011
- .A STRONG LOW WILL PUSH NORTH OF THE REGION TONIGHT... BUT DROP DOWN
- SOUTH INTO WIKIPEDIA BY TOMORROW.
- /O.NEW.KWIK.WI.Y.0001.110813T1200Z-110814T1800Z/
- WIKIPEDIA-
- INCLUDING THE CITY OF...WIKIPEDIA
- ...STRONG WINDS TOMORROW...
- THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WIKIPEDIA HAS ISSUED A WIND ADVISORY...
- WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 6 AM TOMORROW THROUGH 9 PM TOMORROW NIGHT.
- STRONG WINDS WLL DEVELOP ACROSS THE REGION TOMORROW MORNING... AND
- CONTINUE INTO THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. SOME OF THESE WINDS MAY NEAR
- GALE-FORCE. IF THIS WERE TO OCCUR... A HIGH WIND WARNING WOULD BE
- REQUIRED ON VERY SHORT NOTICE FOR PORTIONS OF WIKIPEDIA.
- PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
- WINDS OF THIS MAGNITUDE CAN BLOW OVER HIGH-PROFILE WKISIGNS AND
- WIKIVEHICLES. TAKE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS TO SECURE LOOSE OUTDOOR OBJECTS.
- &&
- $$
- Hopefully this helped. --Bowser the Storm Tracker Chat Me Up 05:10, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes of course; but that only changed after the first Delete !vote came, so it's kinda funny to !vote Delete which invalidates snowball and then state that snowball isn't valid. I can't hardly follow my own reasoning anymore so I better stop :-) --DeVerm (talk) 12:51, 13 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Was that a typo when you said it was an essay? Main-space article. Also, read WP:SNOW with closer detail. The Guideline/policy thing goes with WP:CSK, not SNOW. --Bowser the Storm Tracker Chat Me Up 16:32, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:SNOW is an essay. WP:CSK is a guideline. But none of the speedy keep criterion are met. It's best to just let the AfD run it's course and not close it early. Inks.LWC (talk) 22:29, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh ok I misunderstood. I though you were referring to Wind Advisory as an essay and saying WP:CSK only protects guidelines. WP:SNOW has been used to close deletion discussions in either method in the past. This meets the "criteria for snowball keep" being that it does not "have a snowball's chance in hell of being accepted [for deletion]"[1] The essay may not be a guideline or policy, but it has been used in the past to keep/delete/merge/whatever else things before. It really doesn't matter too much, being that it will be kept either way, it just saves some time. --Bowser the Storm Tracker Chat Me Up 00:55, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I have not voted delete because it is not a snowball keep. It is not a snowball keep *IMO* because I would obviously vote delete. Confusing? May be a little.... but I hope you got it. A weather report, wind or strong wind, or whatever is not article-worth notable in any way I can see or have been shown here. It is certainly notable as a short reference as there is in the (rather nice, I say) article about nomenclature. - Nabla (talk) 21:51, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh ok I misunderstood. I though you were referring to Wind Advisory as an essay and saying WP:CSK only protects guidelines. WP:SNOW has been used to close deletion discussions in either method in the past. This meets the "criteria for snowball keep" being that it does not "have a snowball's chance in hell of being accepted [for deletion]"[1] The essay may not be a guideline or policy, but it has been used in the past to keep/delete/merge/whatever else things before. It really doesn't matter too much, being that it will be kept either way, it just saves some time. --Bowser the Storm Tracker Chat Me Up 00:55, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:SNOW is an essay. WP:CSK is a guideline. But none of the speedy keep criterion are met. It's best to just let the AfD run it's course and not close it early. Inks.LWC (talk) 22:29, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - virtually every personal and economic activity is severe-weather-dependent, thus this is inherently notable. Bearian (talk) 23:47, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep This is a regular NOAA term, frequently used. Also there is a strong precedent as demonstrated by Bowser423 MadCow257 (talk) 03:51, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:29, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Velocity Tiles[edit]
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Contested PROD. Wikipedia is not a how-to guide and original research. Steamroller Assault (talk) 18:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. This article gives me no clue as to what these tiles are, How-to guide / spam, etc. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:19, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - none of the refs provided have reliable 3rd party coverage; they are instead setup/user guides. This article was created by an SPA, and is possibly spam/promotional.Dialectric (talk) 19:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete nothing encyclopedic in a manual page. W Nowicki (talk) 17:20, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Macurious[edit]
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Non-notable company. Joe Chill (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. I agree with nominator. There is no coverage, and I can't find any either. Drmies (talk) 03:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per lack of notable coverage on Google and Yahoo. SwisterTwister talk 04:24, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - unreferenced; no indication of notability. Dialectric (talk) 13:07, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:26, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Railway stations in Bhutan[edit]
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There are no railway stations in Bhutan. bobrayner (talk) 18:23, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, do I really need to say anything else? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 19:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Only reference from 2009 says a railway from India to Bhutan and Nepal is "planned". Article can be recreated once we have solid references stating it is approved and under construction. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 20:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - It looks like my deletionist and inclusionist friends above are in agreement on this... I'm still looking forward to that Native snakes of Hawaii article. Carrite (talk) 22:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment Deletionist? Inclusionist? I used the AfD analysis tool developed by User:Snottywong to take a look at my most recent 250 AfD recommendations. I recommended "Delete" 49.2% of the time and "Keep" 45.4% of the time. I recommended "Redirect" 4.6% of the time. My recommendations matched consensus 86.7% of the time, didn't match consensus 6.2% of the time, and there was no consensus 7.1% of the time. Please note that I am usually among the first to comment, because I am not interested in hopping on bandwagons, plus I often edit on a smart phone that chokes on lengthy debates. So am I a deletionist or an inclusionist? As for Native snakes of Hawaii, my recommendation is the same as for Beach resorts of Bhutan. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Hey, cool toy! I'm an inclusionist (even got hauled to ANI over my Utterly Out of Control and Thoroughly Disruptive Inclusionism </sarc>) and my numbers are 44.5% Keep and 51.4% Delete... Yep, you're an inclusionist, all right, Cullen. Mr. Hammer is 7.3% Keep and 89.9% Delete. So, I'm not gonna retract a word of the above. Slick work, Mr. Snotty... Technology is swell. Carrite (talk) 04:43, 16 August 2011 (UTC) Last edit: Carrite (talk) 16:08, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I have also started an AfD on Railway stations in Kuwait. bobrayner (talk) 07:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, although we don't have a Native snakes in Hawaii, this is a classic Snakes in Iceland problem here; don't exist, probably won't given the geography of that country. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:28, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Newbridge Yachts[edit]
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Non-notable company. Joe Chill (talk) 18:22, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: Subject appears to fail WP:GNG. It also reads a bit like an advertisement than an encyclopedia article. Topher385 (talk) 20:19, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - I didn't see any notable third-party sources on Google and Yahoo aside from Yellowpages and other listings. I guess we know where to yacht now? Ha. SwisterTwister talk 20:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:25, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Tax Club[edit]
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Looks notable at first glance, but pretty much all the sources are either listings, passing mentions, self-published (i.e. YouTube), or minor human interest stories about the fact that the company President offered the pilot of a crashed plane a ticket to Obama's inauguration. Creator has a COI. Previously deleted at AfD, sources added do not look to be sufficient. Black Kite (t) (c) 17:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - advert for a non-notable company. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete per G11, spam masquerading as an article. ukexpat (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - I don't agree with G11 deletion because it's not overly promotional, to the point of being unfixable. But I concur with the nomination, the coverage is nowhere near enough to satisfy our notability requirements. There's a long list of citations to sources that are either unreliable or barely mention the company. -- Atama頭 18:53, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete I agree with the above that it's not close enough to previous versions to speedy, but the sources are far too weak to support an article. EyeSerenetalk 11:47, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:25, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Reason 4[edit]
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While this article does contain a claim of notability (having appeared on a television show), this band doesn't appear to meet the WP:BAND notability criteria for inclusion. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete non-notable per WP:BAND, borderline WP:SPAM, from what I can find online in WP:Reliable sources nothing significant happened to the band after coming in 5th on X Factor per WP:ONEEVENT. Gurt Posh (talk) 17:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per WP:RS, WP:INDY, WP:BAND, WP:TOOSOON. Richwales (talk · contribs) 03:45, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete per G11. -- Atama頭 18:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Mike McGuiness[edit]
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Non-notable. Only source mentioning him in more than a passing way is self-published. Redirect to company may be possible, but deletion appears the way to go. Creator has COI issues. Black Kite (t) (c) 17:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy delete - per G11, spam masquerading as an article. Otherwise, delete as failing WP:BIO. ukexpat (talk) 18:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters. Courcelles 19:23, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My Little Pony: The Wonderbolts[edit]
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The page is about a group of minor characters (they don't have official names, all names on here are fan made) about a cartoon (though a good cartoon). There is no way this could be incorporated into the main article, My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. Brightgalrs (/braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/)[1] 17:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge whatever relevant information into List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters#Minor Characters ...eh, or better yet, just start a new subsection and ditch what looks like a child's scribblings in this current article. Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 17:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Way to encourage the next generation of contributors... 109.153.233.36 (talk) 01:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I like this one. Brightgalrs (/braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/)[1] 10:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Way to encourage the next generation of contributors... 109.153.233.36 (talk) 01:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete so poorly written that nothing needs to be merged. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:55, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - Minor characters, no 3rd-party sourcing, no real world notability. We're not a fansite for Bronies, nuke this stuff from high orbit. Tarc (talk) 03:18, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Nuke it from high orbit? That's a very NPOV you got there. 121.209.96.112 (talk) 13:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters#Minor Characters. Also, WP:DONTBITE the newcomers. Rangoondispenser (talk) 13:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into List of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic characters#Minor Characters - to be fair, at least two of them are officially named, Soarin' and Spitfire are named in the "Best Night Ever" episode... They are recurring characters, however there isn't enough for them to merit a standalone article. (I'm no Bro, and therefore not a Brony :P )MorganaFiolett (talk) 15:49, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Arizona Diamondbacks minor league players. Courcelles 19:21, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Archie Bradley[edit]
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Non-notable amateur baseball player. PROD contested by IP. All coverage appears WP:ROUTINE. He's a first round pick with no claims of meeting WP:GNG or WP:BASE/N. Being a first round pick does not make one notable. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Merge with Arizona Diamondbacks minor league players Perhaps not notable enough to have a standalone article, but being a 2011 first round draft pick should warrant a section in the D'Backs minor league article. Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 17:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- This is a bit tricky.. I would say wait to see if he signs, if he does then merge..
if he doesn't then delete.Spanneraol (talk) 00:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete He isnt notable yet.--Yankees10 02:43, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- For the record, he did sign. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:39, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Arizona Diamondbacks minor league players. Alex (talk) 21:15, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Arizona Diamondbacks minor league players. There is sourced info worth keeping, but not notable enough for a standalone article. —Bagumba (talk) 09:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:21, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hawke's Bay & East Coast Aero Club[edit]
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Non-notable organization, fails WP:ORG. A search for references by several editors did not turn up sufficient to show WP:N. Discussed at WikiProject Aircraft and consensus was to delete it. Ahunt (talk) 15:36, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete; seems to be non-notable. bobrayner (talk) 18:01, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom -- Alexf(talk) 18:25, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per nom; I can't find more than passing references, such as obituraries in local media along the lines of "so-and-so local identity was a member of Hawke's Bay & East Coast Aero Club" or "Joe Bloggs learned to fly at Hawke's Bay & East Coast Aero Club". YSSYguy (talk) 09:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete the article I created, I did not realise how non-noticable this organisation was until now. Sorry. -- User:SnakeEyes(talk) 19:33, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - no need to be sorry, your creation of the article was in good faith, but reviewing articles for notability is just part of the regular process of building the encyclopedia! - Ahunt (talk) 12:40, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as per nom. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:43, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Mass redirect to List of Star Wars books#Fate of the Jedi. Eduemoni↑talk↓ 21:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fate of the Jedi[edit]
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Article covers a book series named "Fate of the Jedi". Series does not appear to meet WP notability guidelines from WP:NBOOK. Google references are mostly blogs. --Noleander (talk) 14:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- At most, it should be merged/redirected to List of Star Wars books#Fate of the Jedi. That should have been attempted through normal editing before coming to AFD. postdlf (talk) 14:50, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:18, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reid G. Sheftall[edit]
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Appears to be an autobiography written by the article subject. Relies mainly on primary sources with only a couple of references from strictly local media. Kelly hi! 13:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Not known enough. Also the fact that the article has his weight proves that it is written by himself unless he goes to a fitness club and his instructor is a big enough fan to make a Wikipedia article on him Naomib1996 (talk) 12:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete No evidence of general notability based on inadequate coverage. Many of the sources are local publications or from his almae matres—not ideal as third-party. A search of WSJ gives no hits on the last name. The books appear to be vanity press: I only found one other book by "CandleLight Books" and it may have been a duplicate name. An Amazon.com name search is used as a reference four times.Novangelis (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Vanity page, as explained above. Agricola44 (talk) 15:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Delete. This polymath appears to have made little or no impact on the world of physics. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:15, 11 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Keep - I, Greg Regan, am the author of this article and not the subject, Dr. Sheftall. I have prepared the article based on my own internet research and local knowledge being a resident here in Phnom Penh, Cambodia since 2001. The ex-pat community is very close-knit so I had heard about Dr. Sheftall’s charity work from others before actually meeting him. I have met Dr. Sheftall on a handful of occasions as a patient. Two of those meetings lasted a few hours: the first a couple of years ago when Dr. Sheftall accompanied my mother to Bangkok for a bile duct operation and earlier this year when he surgically removed a lump from my back. This gave us time to talk and learn more about him. I have seen Sheftall’s Tour Card, the Most Valuable Surgery Resident Award and the 99th percentile certificates. Notability is justified on becoming a professional golfer at age 48 which is a feat in itself, especially when you consider the sub-standard golfing facilities here in Cambodia and the fact that Sheftall was (and still is) running his full-time clinic AND doing free reconstructive plastic surgery for acid-burn victims.
- Let me just respond to some of the points raised in this discussion so far...
- “the fact that the article has his weight proves that it is written by himself”. Actually, I didn’t personally weigh Dr. Sheftall. I found this information here…(http://www.asianseniormasters.com/playerprofile.asp?sortby=NationalityDesc&PlayerID=491). I didn’t reference it as I looked at the model for other professional golfers and noted that their height and weight was not referenced. The fact the article has his height and weight could indicate, as evidence (not proof), that the article was written by Dr. Sheftall. Proof and evidence are two very different things.
- “Many of the sources are local publications” All publications are local. The Wall Street Journal is local as is the The New York Times.
- “...or from his almae matres” Technical Review is the world's leading authority on technological innovation. It doesn’t specifically focus on the exploits of MIT alumni.
- “This polymath appears to have made little or no impact on the world of physics” Fair enough comment but Dr. Sheftall did teach physics at U.S.C. at age 21 which is very unusual. In any case, I am not evaluating notability on only one point.
- “A search of WSJ gives no hits on the last name.” That seems to be an issue with the WSJ’s search engine. You can find the WSJ article that mentions Dr. Sheftall here (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704013004574517892268554388.html). The point of the article is that it is extremely difficult to turn pro-golfer even if you have the time, facilities and resources. Dr. Sheftall achieved pro-status nevertheless with little time to practice and with access to only mediocre facilities.
- Also, in line with Wiki deletion guidelines, I'd request that contributors refrain from using the word "vanity". --Aaregg (talk) 08:35, 14 August 2011 (UTC)— Aaregg (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Comment. Websites, such as the one you furnish are ephemeral and not routinely considered to be acceptable sources (though there are some very strained exceptions). The WSJ article you mention is an example of a "trivial mention": It's a few sentences that say that Sheftall founded a charity clinic and plays professional golf in Malaysia. It would probably be a clincher if the article were about him per se rather than being about the phenomenon of older adults playing golf. Agricola44 (talk) 15:54, 17 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Delete as per Novangelis and nom. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:41, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 15:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Youtab (electronics)[edit]
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There is no evidence of notability of this at all. The only source cited is a paper by the inventor of the idea, and I have been unable to find any third party coverage. The author of this article appears to have a conflict of interest. (PROD contested by author without any reason given.) JamesBWatson (talk) 12:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: a novel idea for designing of analog signal isolators, which works based on optical coupling, is going to be proposed. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:23, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - The community has established a high bar for notability with respect to articles on individual products, and this does not come close. VQuakr (talk) 16:21, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The article is about something that "is going to be proposed". Nipsonanomhmata (Talk) 17:24, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Most of the arguments to keep are invalid as they have no basis in Wikipedia policy. Lack of sources which establish notability is the reason for the vast majority of deletions through this process and is therefore a perfectly valid argument to delete. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:01, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
UnrealIRCd[edit]
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Non-notable software. No actual notability demonstrated in previous AfDs. Joe Chill (talk) 13:01, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unnotable piece of software, fails WP:NSOFT. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:55, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Deletion opposed[edit]
- Keep Reason #1: you are never going to get notable sources for daemons. Yet the entire internet runs on countless daemons.
- Keep Reason #2: it's not a bad article. There was a substantial new release of it last month - July 2011.
- Keep Reason #3: last but not least, this is Cobi's article. If Cobi, with literally millions of anti-vandalism edits can't have an article on a topic in which he has expert opinion, then what hope is there for any of us?
I refer you to the Wikipedia Chairman's call for clemency and editor encouragement of May 2011.
Go on, "Be Nice" - please lend a hand. Wikipedia Chairman appeals for kindness,here, discussed here. Are you in? Geoffjw1978 T L C 23:14, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- "you are never going to get notable sources for daemons." My point exactly. Joe Chill (talk) 22:53, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- So how are you going to list daemon's in the encyclopedia? Just because no-one wants to write an article on sendmail in The New Yorker, does that mean the transmission method of 90% of the world's email is not part of the "sum of human knowledge"?
- I think any deletion of the article should only be allowed to go ahead with a valid proposal, and work done, to fix all the redlinks that would be created, and that work done prior to deletion. Over 250 redlinks >> Special:WhatLinksHere/UnrealIRCd<< Just my 2cents worth. I don't have any vested interest in the article or conflict of interest. Geoffjw1978 T L C 01:21, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Per WP:NSOFT#Inclusion
“ | The software is discussed in reliable sources as significant in its particular field. | ” |
— WP:NSOFT#Inclusion |
“ | One of the most popular and full-featured ircds is Unreal. | ” |
— Mutton, Paul, O'Reilly |
- Keep If this software doesn't meet the criteria for notability then I think alot of the pages for FOSS would not either. I strongly oppose notability as sufficient reason to delete this page. It is established and notable in its type. MadCow257 (talk) 04:57, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete fails WP:GNG. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:45, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep meets WP:GNG, as multiple sources of high quality, such as " IRC Hacks: 100 Industrial-Strength Tips & Tools" (an O'Reilly book, can't get more RS than that), say it is a leader in its sector. Have the "delete" even bothered to read the sources?.--Cerejota (talk) 07:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Takeover EP[edit]
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Possible non-notable album - merge into artist's article? EyeSerenetalk 11:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: Subject appears to fail WP:NALBUMS. I don't see that merging it with the artist's article would enhance it in any significant way. Topher385 (talk) 20:40, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Even the recording artist has had his article tagged for notability since June 2010, and Allmusic has nothing on him save a discographic listing of this one EP. And while the artist's article at least makes a claim of notability, the EP's article does not.--Martin IIIa (talk) 16:29, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Cerejota (talk) 05:17, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Mixxx[edit]
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The prod was contested by an IP. Non-notable software. Joe Chill (talk) 11:19, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep It's a well known open source DJing application: covered on OMGUbuntu (and again), PC Advisor, Best Buy UK website, and there was a paper at New Interfaces for Musical Expression in 2003. —Tom Morris (talk) 18:00, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Mixxx is virtually ubiquitous in news articles about Linux audio production, and very widely discussed in articles about free audio software for Windows, and it reaching the #1 download position for free programs (in any category) through the Mac App Store, according to MusicRadar Grayfell (talk) 02:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Fix well if you want to keep it around, add those independent sources to the article. Blogs are not the most reliable sources, but enough of them (especially ones by professional journalists etc.) would help. W Nowicki (talk) 18:13, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 15:29, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Icky's Ego[edit]
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Non notable band, their video won one minor award for cinematography, no reliable sources found to satisfy the criteria of WP:BAND Jezhotwells (talk) 10:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non notable group, does not satisfy WP:BAND and failed citations and blog references are not sufficient to show any notability.TeapotgeorgeTalk 10:28, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Does not fulfil WP:BAND. Most of the sources are not reliable. I am afraid the idea that they will one day be big is insufficient, as per WP:CRYSTAL. If they ever do get big the article can always be re-created.--SabreBD (talk) 11:09, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
World Technology Evaluation Center[edit]
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advert for a company sourced by the companies own website and links to shops. not independent reliable sources. nothing satisfying WP:CORP duffbeerforme (talk) 09:49, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: Subject appears to fail WP:CORP. It also reads a bit like an advertisement. Topher385 (talk) 20:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ironholds (talk) 05:50, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hailey Dunn[edit]
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(Same as Haleigh Cummings article listed below) Standard missing person case, one of tens of thousands worldwide. No individual notability about this case. Article added by the same single purpose user. Some potentially libelous statements. NPOV. Dmol (talk)
- Question Why would anything claimed in this article be considered potentially libelous if what is written is just paraphrased from what one read in news articles? I thought the whole idea of citing references protects such statements that may appear libelous? Am I wrong? Allycat1208 (talk) 21:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- This case is a Texas case, not Florida. The Hailegh Cummings case is a Florida case. Allycat1208 (talk) 05:57, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Neutral I don't think an account should be labelled as a Single Purpose Account when they edit many different missing persons articles. Some seem enthralled with Missing white woman syndrome, so much that they've absorbed a ton of information from other news sources not found on Wikipedia. It' like saying if I did nothing but edit baseball articles, I'd be a single purpose account as well. I have no vote since I don't know the guidelines that decides what makes a missing girl notable, but here's the Google News results Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 11:32, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - per the reason events of an arrest and developments overall. Hailey Dunn gets 3 830 000 hits on google too.. so coverage has been made to a good extent.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Google News Archive brings up 54 articles, a very low amount. Laladoodle92 (talk) 18:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Question How many hits for a topic from google news archive is enough to be deemed important? Allycat1208 (talk) 19:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- If it were up to me, I would say 1000+ articles. However, I have seen cases pass their aFD with less than 1000 articles, but much more than 54. This case has not received massive media coverage, it did not inspire any new laws, there have been no TV specials/documentaries or movies made it, no books written, etc. Laladoodle92 (talk) 23:40, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Question How many hits for a topic from google news archive is enough to be deemed important? Allycat1208 (talk) 19:56, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Plenty of Google hits, this is notable. The other problems with the article may be solved by being bold and editing it, but they are not valid criteria for deletion. Roodog2k (talk) 20:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - That 'single-purpose' editor, Allycat1208, referenced by nom above, creates and edits articles on murdered and missing children. I'll take that bit of argument for deletion by assuming good faith and say that I don't think there is anything wrong with being a single-purpose editor on Wikipedia.Roodog2k (talk) 20:52, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. I've put a notice about this article on the BLP noticeboard, suggesting that the entire "Investigation" section is tainted with unproven accusations against various people suspected of having a role in Hailey Dunn's disappearance and presumed murder, and proposing that this entire section should be thoroughly removed. The fact that these claims may have been made in newspapers does not (per my understanding of WP:BLP) make it OK to repeat the allegations. Note that even though Hailey Dunn may be dead (and thus the article itself is not a BLP), the BLP policy still applies to statements made in the article regarding living people. As for whether the article itself belongs, I am inclined to !vote to delete per WP:VICTIM — and if the article is deleted, it should be revdel'ed or oversighted out of concern for the material in the "Investigation" section. Richwales (talk · contribs) 01:01, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:VICTIM and per nom. Google News has very few hits - I count 13, though YMMV. I see no points of notability and very great WP:BLP risk for others named in the article.
- Delete. Per editor just above me. This kind of event is always going to receive significant coverage for a time. We can't have articles about all of them. See WP:NOTNEWS.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:32, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom etc. Sadly, cases like this are rarely of great long-term significance, except to those involved. And yes, there were serious issues with the 'investigation' section too. I think the article creator should familiarise him/herself with core WP:BLP policy before writing any more articles on similar topics - this type of article (even if meeting Wikipedia notability guidelines) needs a great deal of care to avoid implications that are unjustified, and negative portrayal of individuals that have had no part in the case itself. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:11, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:VICTIM and WP:NOTNEWS. These are tragic events, but such tragic events happen every day and are reported every day in reliable news sources. This does not usually render the victims notable. In the case of WP:EVENTS, I think persistence in sources is key. For the sake of the subject, let's hope we're dealing with BLP here. BusterD (talk) 03:09, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:12, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
CINeSPACE[edit]
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former EU project, homepage 404, no claim of notability, no independent references, name clash with entertainment venues makes it hard to find content on google. fails WP:GNG Stuartyeates (talk) 07:36, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: Non-notable. Joe Chill (talk) 12:51, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I did manage to locate one informative text on this project/device, by someone in one of the associated bodies who did appreciate that writing is meant to communicate: Jennifer Armitage's article in the now defunct Scottish Screen's "Rough Cuts" newsletter. That indicates that the device is/was essentially an updated View-Master+GPS. That information could be used to improve the article were it to survive AfD. But it does feel that Notability needs demonstration of relevance beyond the project itself. AllyD (talk) 09:48, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Speedy deleted as a hoax created by a blocked editor. Materialscientist (talk) 07:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Euperipatoides kanangrensis kanangrensis[edit]
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Possible hoax. I am unable to verify that this subspecies exists or existed. VQuakr (talk) 07:20, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Given that the article creator has a history of disruptive edits, including the remarkably similar and speedily deleted Euperipatoides kanangrensis kanangrensis kanangrensis, I'm inclined to assume this is another hoax, and am speedy tagging it accordingly. Yunshui (talk) 07:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was redirect to Goalball. Courcelles 19:11, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Gaalball[edit]
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Wikipedia is not for made-up things. --Σ talkcontribs 06:34, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteThis probably could have been PROD'd, but it's cool. After doing a search, results did not show anything remotely consistent with the article (what a surprise!). The term apparently refers to something in Spanish, but it definitely isn't what the current page is about. No coverage in independent sources. I wish there was a speedy delete for pages like this. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 07:14, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Made-up sport. IgnorantArmies?! 09:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Goalball. The "something in Spanish" referred to by Jethro appears to be a misspelling of Goalball. Given that (at least for Spanish speakers) Gaalball appears to be a somewhat plausible misspelling, the best solution may be to redirect. --Lambiam 12:32, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Goalball Good catch, Lambiam. I'm striking my support for deletion in favor a redirect. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 15:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to goalball. It might be wise to preemptively protect the redirect, but I guess this is typically frowned upon. LadyofShalott 02:26, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete without prejudice toward recreation if actual sources are used. While I think there is a valid point to be made that older labor leaders were important figures in their time and our coverage of them is spotty at best, there is no consensus/policy/guideline that they are automatically notable. Therefore the WP:GNG is the bar, and without a single source attached to this article it fails that standard. Will gladly userfy if requested. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:46, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Russell Crowell[edit]
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Fails WP:GNG. So few hits of any kind, even on Gbooks, that Google autocorrects to "Russell Crowe". Article creator (who is retired) openly admitted COI. Only two inbound links, minimal edits since 2009. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 06:28, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per lack of notable sources that could aid in a biography, as I didn't see any on Google and Yahoo. SwisterTwister talk 06:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Delete A search for sources doesn't turn up ideal coverage:
- A memorial page for Crowell, although it was created by a family member. Definitely not independent.
- Crowell is mentioned as a speaker here and here, but there's not any other content about him.
- Crowell's reelection as president to the Laundry and Dry Cleaning Union is mentioned in this newspaper and here, but there still isn't much beyond this.
- This news article is the best I could find, as it has a bit more content of Crowell commenting on a proposition directed at dry cleaning facilities.
- Newspaper article shows Crowell as the chair of a courtroom hearing against a local union unit, but still not great coverage.
- What we've got here that's verifiable is an article about a guy who was president of a labor union, was reelected, commented on some legislation, and was an invited speaker at some labor conferences. I'll keep an eye out if anyone else finds anything, but while these sources are usable, they just aren't enough for WP:BIO of this individual. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 07:04, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep. Wikipedia is extremely weak on pre-Internet-era labor union leaders. The president of an AFL-CIO international union ought to be considered per se notable. Google does not really convey the prominence and power of such individuals in the 1930s through the 1960s. Kestenbaum (talk) 18:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- So you're saying "to hell with this sources thing"? Gee, I wish all BLP articles were like that. Not. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- He may be making an argument similar to the one at WP:POLITICIAN-- that because he was elected (and re-elected) to an international position, he is therefore notable. However, I'm not convinced he should be considered under this criteria, as he's not running for an "office" in the sense that a labor union is an interest group. Furthermore, do not outright dismiss the coverage of Google Books and Scholar, which I checked thoroughly. They contain books from several national libraries listed here. If you can find additional sources, list them here, or better yet, improve the article and let us know. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 19:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- [the following comment moved here from my talk page. Kestenbaum (talk) 06:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)][reply]
- You're arguing WP:ILIKEIT and WP:ITSNOTABLE, which are weightless arguments. There's no such thing as "per se notable". Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:50, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Response. I've been away from WP discussions for a while, so pardon my lack of proper form, and back off on the ridicule.
- I certainly remember seeing the phrase "per se notable" used in biographical notability discussions in the past, for example, as to members of national or state legislatures. I was NOT saying "to hell with sources," but rather (as laid out specifically in I-forget-which WP notability policy) noting that people whose prominence predated the Internet are not necessarily fairly represented in a Google search. Yes, that problem is slowly going away with the development of Google Books and Scholar and like resources, but that doesn't mean it's gone.
- Today, labor unions have sunk into irrelevance, and may seem like a trivial "interest group", a subset of one faction of one political party. However, I admit to being old enough to remember the 1960s and 1970s, when a much larger portion of the nation's workforce was unionized, and labor leaders were household names, receiving frequent and detailed coverage in the media, editorial cartoons, radio and newspaper interviews, etc. Labor union scandals received as much attention as scandals involving members of Congress today. The AFL-CIO (the presidents of its 40 or 50 member unions) was a body of tremendous political power in both parties, as were its two separate predecessor entities.
- Terminology note: "international union" doesn't mean that it draws its significance from crossing national boundaries, since usually the only other country is Canada. Rather, the structure of any large U.S. or Canadian labor union consists of "locals", which are usually numbered and may be quite small, and the "international," which determines policy and structure for all of them, and may have (or had, in the old days) hundreds of thousands of members. The AFL-CIO is a federation of such "international unions".
- I had never heard of Crowell before this discussion. Still, labor history is a WP weakness (see, e.g., the brief little article about a major figure like George Meany), and I didn't like seeing the reflexive dismissal of the significance of a union leader. Kestenbaum (talk) 06:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Filibustering and saying WP:ILIKEIT helps you not in the least. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 21:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Ahem, this is not about "me".
- I have also been looking for other sources, and I admit that I have come up short. The only reference the New York Times has "russell crowell" was from March 22, 1965, which listed him among "many notables" who participated with Martin Luther King, Jr. on a civil rights march. If he was notable enough to be mentioned there, why aren't there ANY other mentions, not even an obituary? Do we have his name wrong? (But "russ crowell" and "russel crowell" don't yield any other hits.) I'm baffled, but I concede the point on this deletion. Maybe the union he headed was never very large. Kestenbaum (talk) 23:54, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- You've got it backwards. His notability is dependent on how many sources there are to be found, not vice versa. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 00:16, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Response. I've been away from WP discussions for a while, so pardon my lack of proper form, and back off on the ridicule.
- Keep - reading the arguments above, I think they make the valid point that union leaders, while historically relevant, may suffer from Wikipedia:Systemic bias. Basically some shitty Myspace band with a bunch of online reviews and an iTunes album has the qualifications of "enough online sources," but a guy who may have had great impact on regional history, and may be very relevant to people interested in Union history, gets shortchanged cuz he got old before the internet appeared. (Not all union leaders are notable, of course, but if even a portion of the details on his Wiki page can be validated, I'd argue he is). Doesn't change the fact that the page really needs to be cleaned up and the few sources that do exist need to be added in. If after a cleanup, it's apparent that he was either some sort of fraud, or all of the historically relevant facts appear to be original research (i.e. there's basically nothing left), I'd say delete. (awaiting sarcastic comment from otters) Sloggerbum (talk) 18:06, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - As per Sloggerbum. First this is not a BLP. Second, anyone who knows anything about union history on the USA knows who this is. Third, sources must not be online sources or news sources, they can be books. Google books reveals plenty of opportunities for sourcing, and indeed notability. I do not think that GNG requires that the sources be contemporary or have the ubiquitousness of contemporary media, that is indeed Systemic Bias towards contemporary rather than historical figures. I say we keep tag for improvement, and eventually a labor historian will get to it. --Cerejota (talk) 05:12, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Burden of proof's on you. If you THINK sources exist, that's not enough. You have to PROVE they're there. Don't be dumb. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 05:22, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No refs at the start of the afd and none now. Looks a bit like a copyvio too, but where it came from who knows. Szzuk (talk) 11:12, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:07, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Mercedes Sanchez[edit]
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Does not pass the notability guidelines. I could find no reliable sources about Mercedes Sanchez as the "blogger, producer, fashion and beauty expert". --Σ talkcontribs 04:49, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - The subject does not appear to meet the GNG, and the local blogging award does not alone indicate adequate notability for inclusion. VQuakr (talk) 04:53, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Every mention I could find in reliable sources about someone named Mercedes Sanchez turned out to be about entirely different people. This person does not seem notable to me, based on Google News Archive and Google Books searches.Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:06, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: Non-notable blogger with a non-notable blog. Joe Chill (talk) 12:54, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Doesn't meet GNG. However, Mercedes Sanchez is a common name. Bgwhite (talk) 07:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Do Not Delete When I search 'Mercedes Sanchez blogger' I find legitimate stories, articles and blog posts that demonstrate this blogger's influence. She is a notable Latina Blogger. Take a look at the references from Advertising Age, Mashable.com and AOL Latino.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nancyalex (talk • contribs)
Delete - I didn't see notable sources on Google and Yahoo.SwisterTwister talk 02:17, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 15:30, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Zoë Belkin[edit]
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Fails WP:ENT. One significant role. Unsourced BLP (other than IMDb, of course). Unable to find significant coverage in independent reliable sources. SummerPhD (talk) 04:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, not a notable entertainer, then again I thought Justin Kelly should be deleted. 117Avenue (talk) 04:40, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per WP:NotJustYet. While her work has grown from minor roles to a lead in The Latest Buzz, her repeated one-ofs in series are still weak on WP:ENT. Also, I can find no sources to confirm her in either Salem Falls or in Degrassi (and so I tagged the article for those citation). HOWEVER, if someone can source she and her Buzz character of "Rebecca Harper" as having a major fanbase or following, I could reconsider. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 23:50, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 15:31, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Edward J. Emering[edit]
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Unreferenced, orphan, not notable. Primary editor is banned. Decstop (talk) 04:10, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-notable author of books on military topics. I was unable to find any reliable, independent sources that give significant coverage to this person. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Per Cullen328.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - I didn't see any notable sources on Google and Yahoo.SwisterTwister talk 02:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:07, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
InterNiche Technologies[edit]
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Non-notable company. Joe Chill (talk) 03:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: ...develops and markets source code licenses for TCP/IP and related modules designed to satisfy the communication and device management needs of embedded devices. Their relentless striving for vagueness leaves you guessing whether their product actually consists of source code or legal template texts. Obvious advertising, and not really a sufficient claim of importance, either. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:35, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. There are a number of notable suppliers of IP protocol stack software. This is not one of them. Nipsonanomhmata (Talk) 17:19, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per lack of sources on Google and Yahoo that could support an article about a company. SwisterTwister talk 01:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 15:31, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Charlie Alejandro[edit]
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The subject of this article has not had any significant film roles and appears to fail the notability criteria at WP:NACTOR. I am also unable to find independent, reliable sources that offer significant coverage of this person per WP:GNG. VQuakr (talk) 03:57, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per lack of notable sources that could help a biography, as I didn't find any notable sources on Google and Yahoo. SwisterTwister talk 06:40, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note There is no AfD notice on this article. Nipsonanomhmata (Talk) 18:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. You really couldn't just A7 this? Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:07, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Agree that being an uncredited actor in films is not notable. Bgwhite (talk) 06:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:06, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Recisio[edit]
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Non-notable company. Joe Chill (talk) 03:24, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Their product Karafun is part of this discussion also. Joe Chill (talk) 03:28, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete - I didn't see notable sources on Google and Yahoo. SwisterTwister talk 20:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 15:32, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Q-stuff[edit]
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Non-notable company. The article creator's username is Q stuff. Joe Chill (talk) 03:22, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per nom. Raymie (t • c) 01:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - no hits on Google News or the videogames wikiproject custom search. Marasmusine (talk) 12:46, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - unreferenced; no indication of notability; created by a now-blocked SPA, so probably spam/promotional. Dialectric (talk) 13:12, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Withdrawn per sources. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 05:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Baggage claim[edit]
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Stubby, unsourced dicdef. Doubt this can be expanded. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 03:21, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The article is about baggage claim areas in airports, which seems like a notable topic to me. It is not about the expression "baggage claim" or about the act of claiming baggage, which would be a problem with the not a dictionary policy. Sources are needed of course but no reason to delete. Borock (talk) 03:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Saying it "seems like" it can be expanded means nothing. Saying "it just needs sources" means nothing until you prove that sources exist. I looked already and found nothing that would constitute a source. Your argument is completely null and void. Try again. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 04:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep Here's a possible source: Innovations for airport terminal facilities. Here's another one: Airport passenger-related processing rates guidebook. And another: Airport Passenger Terminal Planning and Design. And another: The modern airport terminal: new approaches to airport architecture. Each of these sources discusses the topic between six and eleven times, often in great detail. The topic is notable, and there are many reliable sources that discuss it in depth. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:48, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- (After edit conflict with comments by Cullen328 above:) TPH, what happened when you looked in Google Books? Did you find sources such as
- Airport engineering By Norman Ashford, Paul H. Wright. p. 316
- The modern airport terminal: new approaches to airport architecture By Brian Edwards. p. 116
- Planning and Design of Airports, Fifth Edition By Robert Horonjeff, Francis McKelvey, William Sproule. p. 412.
- And in Google Scholar did you find such sources as
- "Baggage Claim Area Congestion at Airports: An Empirical Model of Mechanized Claim Device Performance", Atef Ghobrial, Carlos F. Daganzo, Tarif Kazimi, in Transportation Science Vol. 16, No. 2, May 1982, pp. 246-260
- "Maximum Inventories in Baggage Claim: A Double Ended Queuing System", James J. Browne, James J. Kelly, Philippe Le Bourgeois, in Transportation Science, Vol. 4, No. 1, February 1970, pp. 64-78
- "The use of queueing models in design of baggage claim areas at airports", WA Barbo, in Transportation Research Board, 1967.
- If you found such sources, did you consider adding them to the article? If not, was there a particular reason you dismissed them? It would be helpful if you were more explicit in your nomination statements. Thanks. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 04:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The first two pages of hits I found were all false positives (several novels with that name), or tangential mentions (e.g. "To receive at said Union Depot for transportation all baggage to which there is attached together the first and middle stubs of such baggage claim check, and on the receipt of such baggage to remove such middle stub from such baggage ..") Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 05:06, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Did you do a Google Books and Google Scholar search, or simply a straight Google search? Simple Google searches usually produce gigantic amounts of chaff, with very little wheat. Our AfD tool bar linked above every debate give us far more powerful search tools that allow us to refine and disambiguate our searches in a matter of seconds. Simply adding "airport" to the search eliminates bus and train references. Why take a look at blog and social networking crap when Google will hand you far higher quality sources for the asking? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:12, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I did Google Books. The first two pages of Gbooks gave me nothing but crap. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 05:25, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 19:06, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
NicheStack HTTP Server[edit]
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I am unable to find anything that shows notability. Joe Chill (talk) 03:20, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete, lots of press releases, nothing I see is significant coverage. --Nuujinn (talk) 00:48, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Courcelles 19:06, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tonight's the Night (Little Birdy song)[edit]
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Does not appear to be notable. Google searched and does not appear in any major charts or publications. Lachlanusername (talk) 01:01, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep you can't have looked very hard - the single reached #78 on the 2004 Triple J Hottest 100. Have found multiple verifiable references which i have included in the article. Dan arndt (talk) 04:22, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I did actually search for that and didn't find it, not that it matters anymore. Lachlanusername (talk) 04:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Triple J is not an acceptable chart per WP:GOODCHARTS. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 04:34, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Just out of curiosity, which part specifically states that Triple J isn't notable? Lachlanusername (talk) 04:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It's notable, but it's not an acceptable one. I used the wrong word. Triple J chart is by a single network, so it's not acceptable. It'd be like using the Radio Disney charts. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 05:08, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd have to disagree as the Triple J Hottest 100 is voted on a national basis, and is international recognized. Dan arndt (talk) 07:51, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I am also unclear on how it isn't notable, as, to repeat what Dan said, the Hottest 100 is a poll that includes world music and can be voted on by anyone with access to the Triple J website (presumably anywhere in the world). Each Hottest 100 list even has its own Wikipedia page. Lachlanusername (talk) 08:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- There's a long standing consensus that we don't use fan voted charts at all, regardless of how notable they are. Triple J is fan voted, so it shouldn't be used. See Wikipedia:CHARTS#General_guidelines. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:58, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Are you aware how few sales you need to make it onto a weekly ARIA top 40 chart (see Here I Am (Natalie Gauci song) - under 8,000 to make #2) vs how many votes you need to make it onto the annual Hottest 100 chart? The longevity, notabilty and prestige associated with the hottest 100 surely makes an exception to your standards required. The-Pope (talk) 00:00, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- There's a long standing consensus that we don't use fan voted charts at all, regardless of how notable they are. Triple J is fan voted, so it shouldn't be used. See Wikipedia:CHARTS#General_guidelines. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 18:58, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I am also unclear on how it isn't notable, as, to repeat what Dan said, the Hottest 100 is a poll that includes world music and can be voted on by anyone with access to the Triple J website (presumably anywhere in the world). Each Hottest 100 list even has its own Wikipedia page. Lachlanusername (talk) 08:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete.Keep Point taken about ARIA top 40 chart, but I suspect it would apply equally to fan-voted sites, like Triple J, as well. #78 of what? Would need more than this to make the song "notable." Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 16:34, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]- Keep Amended opinion. In view of ARIA entry now added, notability is now established. Thanks to Dan for the much good work done by him. --Richhoncho (talk) 07:20, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Do you know what the Hottest 100 is? It's been going for almost 20 years, it's an annual poll, not a weekly/monthly thing and it had almost half a million votes that year. It is the definitive snapshot of what Australian youth think is notable music each year. The-Pope (talk) 17:21, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment numerous verifable references now provided in article. Dan arndt (talk) 05:28, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per newly supplied ref: it charted at No. 76 on the ARIA Singles Chart (which is a Good enough Chart).shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:42, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to Ad hominem. Courcelles 00:43, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ad feminam[edit]
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Fails WP:Wikipedia is not a dictionary since the article only defines the phrase, which is a feminine version of Ad hominem. There is no discussion beyond that. One source is a dictionary, the other two are examples of use. Borock (talk) 23:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Redirect to Ad hominem. Plausible search term, but not enough discussion in RS for its own article. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Merge and redirect to Ad hominem. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 19:39, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect to Ad hominem per Malik Shabazz and WP:SNOW as a sensible closure. Bearian (talk) 15:31, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - there are 5,200 returns on the exact phrase "ad feminam" on Books.Google from all sorts of high quality refs. So I think what it needs is an expansion note and some expanding. CarolMooreDC (talk) 20:53, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A huge number of those hits, though, are just Latin quotes or texts that happen to contain the phrase - not on this topic. A number of the others are reprints of the same one or two essays, which also don't address the topic that the article does (the ideas just share a name). And when we do reach the ones that are actually discussing it as a counterpart to ad hominem, most don't distinguish it as a concept, just recognizing it as a PC way of saying ad hominem rather than as an ad hom. based on perceived sex characteristics. Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:34, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Merge and redirect to Ad hominem per Roscelese. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 13:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
DeletimMergim and redirectim - Politicalim correctim nonus-notibalis neologism — dictionarius definitium. Carrite (talk) 23:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC) Last edit: Carrite (talk) 23:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A merge to ad hominem would be appropriate. Carrite (talk) 23:05, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Valid term used in feminist circles. 24,600 Google results for the exact phrase. - Sikon (talk) 18:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- That would only confirm that it is a dictionary term, not that it is a notable subject for an encyclopedia.--Dmol (talk) 20:49, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect to Ad hominem. My76Strat (talk) 21:53, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect. Doesn't seem to be enough material to form a good encyclopedia article. Would make a good addition to the Ad hominem article though. Kaldari (talk) 21:54, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep or merge. Decent material, should exist somewhere. Would fit well in the the target article. No case for deletion. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:51, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and redirect to Ad hominem per WP:NAD Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 13:17, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Userfy, but for the meantime Delete. — Joseph Fox 23:41, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Homestead Book Company[edit]
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This company does not appear to meet the applicable notability guideline at WP:CORP. The only link from the article is to the page of the company, and I have been unable to locate any reliable secondary sources that provide a nontrivial discussion of this topic. VQuakr (talk) 00:55, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete per lack of notable mentions, media coverage in general. Aside from the company's website, I didn't see any media coverage or third-party sources on both Yahoo! and Google. SwisterTwister talk 22:03, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep give me a shot at fixing it up... there is history here worth talking about, I know it... I'm surprised they're still going, the internet just makes real books obsolete today... I see major advertising ads all over with Waldenbooks, google books has a couple, this page almost makes me what a kindle, another bookstore hurt by the internet and kindle Borders Group has a page, I get it, the huge corporations always get special treatment.... But none of them ever offered a spore print to study under a microscope either... Grab a High Times mag, from any year, and I bet you'll see them mentioned in there... PF Tek has a page, Homestead offered the first magic mushroom grow kit I know of called the Homestead Mushroom Kit years before Prof. F hit the scene... Homestead championed freedom of speech too, offering up books on cannabis, LSD, mushrooms, meth and the like in the eighties and early nineties before the internet brought along Erowid and others... Homestead applies to several catagories too, American websites, Drug culture, Psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants, Educational websites, Mycology, Cannabis Culture to name a few... Oh yeah,I'm a newbie too, so no biting, just give the new guy a chance... Sorry for being long winded... Ljettinger (talk) 18:55, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A keep !vote copied from the talk page for this AfD: Dear Wiki Decision Makers: Deleting the Homestead page is so extreme. I can understand making edits to the material, but to totally remove the article on the grounds that it might be too much like an advertisement. Exactly what language needs to be softened? I personally worked at Homestead Book Company in the 1970's. This is why I looked for an article, found none and now I attempt to get something out on Wiki about this historical book distribution company in Seattle. Is it possible that I list myself as a reference and be considered credible (as I did develop the article-that seems to be just … my opinion) if I make a quote about "the fact" of Homestead existing then and now. I know as a first hand observer, Homestead distributed underground comics as a book distributor to shops in the Seattle area in the 1970's. Thankselizmichael (talk)Lizbeth M.
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- Delete Those arguing for more time to improve this article have been given a little more time to produces reliable sources that discuss this business. I have been unable to find any online. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:53, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, they are not a major publisher, but as a distributor (wholesaler, with possibly exclusive distribution rights for some books/publishers), they are a major supplier of "underground" themed books to retailers. books that a retailer might be reluctant to purchase directly from a smaller publisher, they can purchase from Homestead with return privileges. thus, if book X from publisher Y doesnt sell, they can return it and use the credit to purchase book Z from publisher 0. if they had purchased directly from publisher Y, and if none of the selected books sold, any credit the retailer has with that publisher is useless. purchasing from homestead means they can try out a selection, then return those that dont sell for credit for more. as long as homestead always has at least a few bestsellers from major publishers dipping into the counterculture market, retailers will continue to use them as a source for the obscure. imagine being a retailer trying to keep accounts on 3000 small publishers, and you get the idea of how important this service has been. This model has allowed big businesses like Ingram Book Company, Baker & Taylor, smaller businesses like Bookpeople (distributor), Last Gasp and other local companies (L-S distributors, Pacific Pipeline, and many others,), to thrive through the 70s, 80s and 90s. the advent of amazon.com and disintermediation of the book industry meant that the margins the distributor/wholesaler lived off shrank to next to nothing. These companies, including homestead, helped create and grow the modern alternative book market in a way that the publishers alone could not have. there was nothing like having thes books ON BOOKSHELVES at that time. now, things are different, but notability is forever. if anyone can find enough sources to support this subjects history as being important, it should stay. of course, being an underground book wholesaler means they wont get a lot of press, and their heyday, along with bookpeople, was pre-internet. It would be sad if we lost this part of our history, esp. as the mission of WP itself is so similar to the mission of these and other book publishing pioneers such as the Whole Earth Catalog. They are in addition a major publisher of marijuana growing books, an important (if small in numbers) subset of the book industry. if people insist on more references, we would need more print references, so at least Userfy if nothing else. PS, 491 actual google hits for ("homestead book company" -wallace). wallace is part of the name of a different company, wallace-homestead. not too bad.
- some possible references: this google book link shows them listed as a resource in a book on how to market your book. this shows one of their books reviewed in mother jones (not very good ref, i know). this is an interview with a Pacific Pipeline owner in a book on the industry. that should help. this is a mention in a very significant book on drug addiction. this is a brief mention in a book by andrew weil. Thats the best i can do for now.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:40, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- We don't count Google hits here. Two or three solid references that give significant coverage are vastly better than 491 Google hits that are passing mentions, blog references, Facebook pages, self published stuff and the like. As of now, we don't even have one solid reference. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for trying, Mercurywoodrose, but every one of those is a passing mention, and there is no significant coverage whatsoever in what you've offered. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:55, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Your welcome, and thanks for acknowledging the effort (this project can get under my skin sometimes. Why do i try so hard with some articles?). I agree that i probably dont have enough additional references to clearly establish notability. And i should have prefaced the GHIT mention with the fact that it doesnt confer notability by itself. Likely the only way this will establish notability is if someone has not-yet-scanned print resources they can cite.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 15:32, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Userfy - I am reasonably sure that this topic is notable per Wikipedia criteria, but I can't establish notability via online sources. One challenge in that regard is recentism; another challenge in online research is that many Internet firewalls block content related to counterculture topics. Notability is likely going to depend on print sources -- local news media, old copies of High Times, etc. A more serious issue is that the current article seems to have been mostly copied from the "History" page on Homestead's website. Being a counterculture organization, I imagine that Homestead doesn't believe in copyrighting its web content, but there is still a potential issue with WP:Copyvio. The content needs to be rewritten in the contributor's own words. It seems to me the best way to handle this for now is to move it to the contributor's user space for further development. --Orlady (talk) 16:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Speaking as a historian, this is a cool little piece. Wikipedia is the poorer for not being able to make square pegs like this fit into round holes. The inevitable deletion here will, once again, go a long way towards turning off a newbie editor. We need to figure out how to fix that problem, too. It's difficult to see how this is going to end up a Keep given the notability rules that Jesus brought down from the mount less than a decade ago; please be sure to userfy it to minimize the damage. Maybe sources will emerge or we'll start wising up to the fact that information like this helps the encyclopedia. Carrite (talk) 23:12, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Ignore all rules. Use common sense to improve the encyclopedia. Carrite (talk) 23:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Both Mercurywoodrose and I have written personal welcome messages to the new editor who is the author here. Each of us, in our own way, have explained the problems and encouraged the new editor to stick with Wikipedia. I remember that Will Beback wrote me just such a friendly message when I first started editing, and it made a very favorable impression on me. I encourage all editors to write personal welcome messages to newcomers, speaking directly and in a friendly manner about the specific challenges they are facing. It helps make this a more welcoming place. Just my two cents . . . Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:45, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment For what it's worth, I've thrown two references into the article, one slightly more than an entirely passing reference, the other entirely a bibliographic entry, but the latter surprisingly enough at the North American Mycological Association. --joe deckertalk to me 01:57, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. It's counter culture that nobody much cares about. Pleny of little orgs like this. Szzuk (talk) 12:13, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:42, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Digital legacy[edit]
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WP:NEO. I am unable to find any reliable source mentions of the term, "Digital legacy." It appears to be a term being promoted by Scott R. Zucker and Michael D. Roy. But I can't find reliable secondary source coverage to establish significant coverage. There IS coverage of "digital assets" - but that already has a separate article. ConcernedVancouverite (talk) 02:46, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. New concept without clear coverage in reliable sources. This would make a great essay on the website of a company selling services to preserve a person's digital assets after death. However, it does not read like an encyclopedia article, nor does it meet the Wikipedia requirements for notability and verifiability. —C.Fred (talk) 03:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment C.Fred - Exactly it is a new concept and therefore the reason why it should not be deleted, information on the subject is scant so any effort to combine and publish relevant information is useful, I do not know how to write like an "encyclopedia article" I'm sorry to say, but I am all ears fro advice Pagolding (talk) 07:03, 3 August 2011 (UTC) — Pagolding (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- If information is scant, Wikipedia is not the place to gather information; Wikipedia is not the place to publish original research on a subject. Topics must already be notable before an article is started on them. This lack of information is precisely the reason why this topic should not have an article (yet). —C.Fred (talk) 17:03, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Compare Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Digital estate planning, which seems to be another promotional article advertising the same notion. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:28, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 17:27, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Pol-primett[edit]
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Ephemeral project. No independent sources. Does not meet WP:GNG. Re-creation of an earlier version Pol-primett (project), which was PRODded and subsequently speedied as G11. Hence taking this immediately to AfD rather than going through CSD/PROD again. Crusio (talk) 09:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Another EU research project. This one, being addressed to a relatively concrete problem (metal theft), is better than some others, but still says very little definite: ....will provide a transnational perspective on the problem and propose strategic and operational solutions which can be applied in partner countries - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 15:38, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - seems to be a genuine project. I say keep for now.--BabbaQ (talk) 10:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: It is a genuine project, but a non-notable genuine project. Joe Chill (talk) 12:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete No evidence of notable project outcome. AllyD (talk) 22:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- An outcome - something that has manifestly resulted from the project and been recognised as such. To quote from the policies to which you have been directed: "No subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists: The evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition, and that this was not a mere short-term interest, nor a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity". AllyD (talk) 07:28, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: Im standing by my Keep !vote.. I think this project article has shown atleast the minimum of notability and importance needed. It also as OK sourcing. --BabbaQ (talk) 23:55, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete hey, hey, ho, ho, europrojectcruft must go! Also, WP:GNG not met, just in case previous reasoning is not serious enough.--Cerejota (talk) 13:58, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Eurosh1t. Szzuk (talk) 11:20, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. joe deckertalk to me 15:34, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Year 2000 baby boom[edit]
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No references except for one that actually does not support the article itself. Therefore, non notable. Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:09, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I thought this was hoaxy, but a search of "Y2K baby boom" did net THIS ARTICLE FROM THE NY DAILY NEWS. This REUTERS STORY IN THE DESERET NEWS indicates that the projected Y2K baby boom was a "bust worldwide." It seems as though this was one of the Bored Journalists on Deadline made-up stories of 2000. No opinion as to encyclopedia-worthiness — but it's not a hoax, for sure. Carrite (talk) 14:41, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment It's not a hoax, agreed, and certainly there could be an article about "Journalists projected millenial baby boom fails to appear". But that's a stretch. So I'm putting down the comment I was writing up earlier. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 17:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Media suggested this would happen (e.g. Guardian 'Baby boom' for the millenium but I find no evidence that it was a reality (e.g. U.S. Census 2000 press release might have mentioned it; University of Soton researchers report that it wasn't happening. Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 17:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- At most this might merit a note as an alleged baby boom at the Baby boom article. Here's another weak news report on the boom.[10]. This reminds me that there was a story after obama's election about some reporter trolling for evidence of an obama-election-baby-boom. If you think wikipedia is bad, try journalism, I always say.--Milowent • talkblp-r 18:40, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment I created this article by forking it from Baby boom, which iterated through various booms, rather than describing what a baby boom was. I won't miss this article if the consensus is to delete. Some of the sources missing from this article might be present on baby boom instead, and I forgot to copy them over. — Nicholas (reply) @ 09:01, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. The article has zero sources, and the sources cited above in this discussion tend to suggest that the article is inaccurate and that no such baby boom occurred. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:12, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Unless someone is willing to rewrite the article about the hypothetical event that never happened, the article in its present state is misleading. —Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib 03:21, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - I think an article COULD be sourced out and written on this topic, as a sort of case study of the realities of the news cycle. Whether one SHOULD write an encyclopedia article on the non-fruition of baseless speculation and abstract theorization that couples would bring the new millennium in with a bang, so to speak, is an altogether different matter. Carrite (talk) 01:55, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. causa sui (talk) 17:22, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Master Colony[edit]
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Non-notable per WP:BAND, no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources. Gurt Posh (talk) 13:18, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep - Fulfills WP:GNG with this, this and this (significant coverage from reliable sources). Even though they have bad haircuts, they seem to be notable. OlYellerTalktome 21:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete Looking at the sources there is two small market (local?) pieces which have repeated sections, reading like a reproduction of a bands self produced bio (one is a glorified gig listing) and the third is a local boy made good puff piece, not what I call significant coverage. (Not all of the haircuts are bad). duffbeerforme (talk) 09:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note - The Whitby paper is from a town of about 13k (so obviously a very small paper). The other writes for a city of about 135k people (also not very large). In short, I can agree that the coverage is local which certainly diminishes the usefulness of the articles. As for them being puff pieces, I don't really see that it matters unless you're suggesting that there was some sort of breach in the independence of the newspaper from the band. OlYellerTalktome 12:25, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - definitly meets WP:GNG.--BabbaQ (talk) 09:30, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete fails WP:BAND. coverage is not significant, locally covered bands don't cut it for WP, no evidence of producing charted albums, notable tours as a lead. LibStar (talk) 12:34, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No coverage, no achievements. Drmies (talk) 01:27, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. No reliable refs given. Szzuk (talk) 11:06, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- "No reliable refs given" is irrelevant. AfDs are to determine if the subject is notable and not if the article in its current state is good. AfDs are not for cleanup. OlYellerTalktome 12:26, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- OlYeller is correct, Szzuk. Please comment on notability per our guidelines. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 14:17, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- "No reliable refs given" is irrelevant. AfDs are to determine if the subject is notable and not if the article in its current state is good. AfDs are not for cleanup. OlYellerTalktome 12:26, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:40, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Platform[edit]
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Unreferenced stub with unclear notability. If anything useful, it could be added into Fuel Cells and Hydrogen Joint Technology Initiative. Beagel (talk) 18:16, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. No useful content. Unreferenced. Hardly anything to delete. Nipsonanomhmata (Talk) 17:22, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:40, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Real Canadian Natural Spring Water[edit]
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No evidence of notability per WP:CORP. Kelly hi! 18:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment. This is a private label brand sold by Loblaw Companies Limited. The brand doesn't appear to be notable, but the company that does the bottling, Ice River Springs, might be notable. Perhaps the article should be moved to Ice River Springs. Some of the information reprinted at http://www.iceriversprings.ca/news/ may be relevant. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:17, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, the brand's not notable, and I don't expect that the bottler will be, either. PKT(alk) 14:28, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:39, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Charles Francis Stein[edit]
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Non notable attorney. Apart from the Sun obituary and alumni death notices at Princeton and UVA Law, I can't anything about the man. There are stub articles about his father and grandfather. Both of whom appear to be notable but WP:INHERIT and Charles Francis Stein III doesn't make the cut. GcSwRhIc (talk) 00:40, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- DELETE Simply not notable, even the scant article is indicative of lack of notability for this individual. Sorry. GenQuest (talk) 00:56, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per lack of sources on Google and Yahoo that could help a Wikipedia biography. SwisterTwister talk 04:45, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Germanischer Lloyd guidelines for fuel cells on ships and boats[edit]
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Unsourced stub with unclear notability. Has been proded three years ago, but deproded by creator. If anything useful, it could be merged into Hydrogen ship. Beagel (talk) 19:22, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete. Standards organizations make standards for things; that's what they do. It's not notable. --Wtshymanski (talk) 16:49, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - no assertion of notability and no way to assert it. No Google hits, no non-Wiki Google books hits, and no Google scholar hits exist for the term. Bearian (talk) 19:32, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Article has little notability. Brad (talk) 19:14, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. causa sui (talk) 17:19, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
2007 Star Mazda Championship season[edit]
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:EVENT and article only shows race results. Contested PROD by main editor who put some refs in that are either not independent or only announce the winning driver (routine news event). --DeVerm (talk) 20:15, 3 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Keep The Star Mazda Championship series appears to be notable, as it receives coverage in Autoweek ([11]) among other racing and auto enthusiast sites. If the series is notable, then articles about its individual seasons are valid for inclusion. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:23, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment This series has become a recognized step towards Indy series from 2010 onwards. You will find plenty references for 2010 and 2011 but none for earlier seasons, hence it only became notable from 2010 onwards --DeVerm (talk) 20:36, 3 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
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- Delete: Appears to fail notability. Only two drivers in this series have achieved notability in succeeding years, a minor level national series, references do not demonstrate notability and article itself is substantially under-written. The text makes no effort to demonstrate its notability. The column titled 'supporting' is somewhat of a damning statement of it's own, implying that some of what notability it may have is by association rather than its own merits. The parent Star Mazda article is substantially under-referenced. If the parent article is a borderline notability fail, there seem little to redeem its individual racing seasons. Bets relocated to a motorsport specific wiki. --Falcadore (talk) 04:08, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep season article for a fully professional racing series. "Supporting" does not mean anything regarding the series' notability. It merely means it ran with another series during its race weekend and that the other series is more significant and was the "main event". Do we delete the articles of professional boxers who fight on the undercard rather than the main event simply because of that fact? Additionally, I've added several more citations and exposition to the article. -Drdisque (talk) 02:11, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, while the additionaly references assist with verifiability, they do not seem to do anything towards notability. Is there anything that establishes Star Mazda's place in the greater scheme? Is it a third or fourth-tier open wheel series? Is it actually fully professional? Team personnel may be professional but are the drivers? --Falcadore (talk) 03:00, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Here's a point of reference for the professional nature of the series in 2007. Champion Dane Cameron won a scholarship to race in the Atlantic Championship in 2008.[12] This package is likely worth over $200,000 USD - which qualifies as professional in my book. -Drdisque (talk) 14:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Ehm.. that scholarship is for the Atlantic Championship which is not the Star Mazda Championship. We all know that famous race drivers started their careers in non-notable championships, which means that those drivers get an article on WP but those non-notable championships do not --DeVerm (talk) 14:23, 10 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- It's the value of the prize that's important, and what in my opinion, makes the series professional. Would you rather the champion be given $200k worth of potatoes? -Drdisque (talk) 14:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It's a scholarship which, by definition, shows we are not talking about professional level. Also, the figure of $200k is not mentioned anywhere in the link you provided (no dollar value is mentioned at all) and I think it has no dollar value at all. I did find other sources showing his p[rice money to be $100k plus a Mazda car which is what you might be thinking of. I also found that this series equals the European Formula-3 series in level, which is also far away from professional level --DeVerm (talk) 15:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- If various European F3 series are amateur then why do most of them have season articles? If the scholarship has no value, then feel free to call up race teams and say that would would like to drive for them with no sponsorship next year and prepared to be laughed at. Auto racing is different from other sports, it requires lots of money to compete in. The difference between amateur and professional is what you can get back for that money. -Drdisque (talk) 15:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Drdisque - a scholorship is awarded to persons who are believed to be talented, in order to give them room to learn and get better. The finances involved enable the driver to participate. This in contrast with professional drivers who get hired/paid to come and drive the car. Also, I don't think that the high costs you mention to participate in this championship, make it notable. The fact is that there are simply no sources that comply with WP:N and WP:V because the series is... not notable enough --DeVerm (talk) 19:36, 10 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- No sources that comply with WP:V? Coverage from notable outlets like Speed (TV channel), Autoweek, and Racer (magazine) doesn't meet WP:V? -Drdisque (talk) 21:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Drdisque - To look at a dictionary definition, to be a professional is to belong to a profession, not to aspire to do so. A singer does not become professional by competing for the cash prize in American Idol. And is Star Mazda comparable to Formula 3 anyway? The article makes no statement as to what level Star Mazda races at. Third-tier? Fourth-tier? Fifth-tier? In some countries Formula 3 is the highest level of open wheel motor racing one can race at, this is certainly not the case in the US is it? How can this series claim to be notable when the article makes no statement as to what level of notability it is? You say the scholarship prize to compete in the Altantic Championship, but there is not statement about whether the Atlantic Championship is a professional series, and indeed the 2008 Atlantic Championship season makes no statement of professionalism or notability either. You can't make a claim to notability by association with another series which is not established as notable. --Falcadore (talk) 19:52, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Only a handful of drivers on the planet are paid significant amounts of money to drive yet hundreds upon hundreds have auto racing as a profession (their primary occupation). In addition, let's compare this article to one you created - 2005 New Zealand Grand Prix. Not only are the Star Mazda cars faster and more expensive to race, the article in question is about a whole season while this article is about a single race. Finally, 2005 New Zealand Grand Prix has no external sources other than the race results. I know this sounds like WP:OTHERSTUFF but my intent is to show that I feel you're holding this article to an unrealistic standard of "notability" that you don't even ascribe to in your own articles. -Drdisque (talk) 21:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The New Zealand Grand Prix accurately portrays itself as the premier motor race for the year in New Zealand. The notability comes from the status of the event rather than the competitors. The speed of the cars is not a relevant factor towards notability, nor is their expense. Star Mazda would be signifcantly faster than the British Touring Car Championsip if we are to make irrelevant comparisons, are you going to suggest that BTCC should be deleted on that basis? The New Zealand Grand Prix is the equivalent of the Indianapolis 500 in New Zealand, it's notability comes from New Zealand sources. How does the Star Mazda series compare to its domestic equivalent, which is the Indianapolis 500?
- I fear you are misunderstanding what is being asked of this article with regards to notability. Notability does not work against a global standard of speed or expense, or quality of equipment. Star Mazda is a purely domestic series, just North America, so its notability is not established against events in Europe or New Zealand. How does Star Mazda compare with North American motorsport? Is it as big as NASCAR? NASCAR Nationwide? Indycar? Champ Car? NASCAR Trucks? ALMS? Grand-Am? Atlantics? Indy Pro Series? World of Outlaws? Does it even rank within the top ten most important series in the US?
- I feel strongly you need to have a read of the WP:GNG of WP:Notability. --Falcadore (talk) 23:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Only a handful of drivers on the planet are paid significant amounts of money to drive yet hundreds upon hundreds have auto racing as a profession (their primary occupation). In addition, let's compare this article to one you created - 2005 New Zealand Grand Prix. Not only are the Star Mazda cars faster and more expensive to race, the article in question is about a whole season while this article is about a single race. Finally, 2005 New Zealand Grand Prix has no external sources other than the race results. I know this sounds like WP:OTHERSTUFF but my intent is to show that I feel you're holding this article to an unrealistic standard of "notability" that you don't even ascribe to in your own articles. -Drdisque (talk) 21:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Drdisque - a scholorship is awarded to persons who are believed to be talented, in order to give them room to learn and get better. The finances involved enable the driver to participate. This in contrast with professional drivers who get hired/paid to come and drive the car. Also, I don't think that the high costs you mention to participate in this championship, make it notable. The fact is that there are simply no sources that comply with WP:N and WP:V because the series is... not notable enough --DeVerm (talk) 19:36, 10 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- If various European F3 series are amateur then why do most of them have season articles? If the scholarship has no value, then feel free to call up race teams and say that would would like to drive for them with no sponsorship next year and prepared to be laughed at. Auto racing is different from other sports, it requires lots of money to compete in. The difference between amateur and professional is what you can get back for that money. -Drdisque (talk) 15:47, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It's a scholarship which, by definition, shows we are not talking about professional level. Also, the figure of $200k is not mentioned anywhere in the link you provided (no dollar value is mentioned at all) and I think it has no dollar value at all. I did find other sources showing his p[rice money to be $100k plus a Mazda car which is what you might be thinking of. I also found that this series equals the European Formula-3 series in level, which is also far away from professional level --DeVerm (talk) 15:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- It's the value of the prize that's important, and what in my opinion, makes the series professional. Would you rather the champion be given $200k worth of potatoes? -Drdisque (talk) 14:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Ehm.. that scholarship is for the Atlantic Championship which is not the Star Mazda Championship. We all know that famous race drivers started their careers in non-notable championships, which means that those drivers get an article on WP but those non-notable championships do not --DeVerm (talk) 14:23, 10 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Here's a point of reference for the professional nature of the series in 2007. Champion Dane Cameron won a scholarship to race in the Atlantic Championship in 2008.[12] This package is likely worth over $200,000 USD - which qualifies as professional in my book. -Drdisque (talk) 14:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, while the additionaly references assist with verifiability, they do not seem to do anything towards notability. Is there anything that establishes Star Mazda's place in the greater scheme? Is it a third or fourth-tier open wheel series? Is it actually fully professional? Team personnel may be professional but are the drivers? --Falcadore (talk) 03:00, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment When evaluating this article for notability, please keep in mind that this discussion is about the 2007 season only. If there are questions about the notability of the race series as a whole, that should be a separate discussion. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:20, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Notability for a racing series (and its seasons) is separate from notability of its drivers. If there's enough reliable sources then it should be kept per WP:GNG. Royalbroil 11:54, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I fully agree with you so how is it possible that you !vote Keep while I am at Delete? We surely must interpret the given sources differently and I am most curious how the closing admin will interpret them --DeVerm (talk) 12:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Agreed. Apparently we disagree what is reliable. Speed (TV channel) covered it which is a major cable network in the United States. That in itself in my opinion shows that it's major since there likely are other major reliable sources. Auto Racing Daily covered it and they appear to be professional too. That's multiple. I don't know how reliable the rest are but they count as something too toward the total. Royalbroil 20:31, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I fully agree with you so how is it possible that you !vote Keep while I am at Delete? We surely must interpret the given sources differently and I am most curious how the closing admin will interpret them --DeVerm (talk) 12:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Keep I truly believe the coverage by the Speed Network proves well enough that this event is notable. Agent VodelloOK, Let's Party, Darling! 01:01, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- A question though - would not that depend on who paid for it? If Star Mazda organisers purchased air time on Speed Network would that make it notable? --Falcadore (talk) 03:33, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Indeed... I don't even believe that Speed Network is an independent source... they even show training sessions etc... whatever the sponsors want --DeVerm (talk) 08:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- By that standard, every TV network is not an independent source as they all accept paid programming. No offense, but you're making "rules" up as you go along. -Drdisque (talk) 16:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Indeed... I don't even believe that Speed Network is an independent source... they even show training sessions etc... whatever the sponsors want --DeVerm (talk) 08:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- A question though - would not that depend on who paid for it? If Star Mazda organisers purchased air time on Speed Network would that make it notable? --Falcadore (talk) 03:33, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was merge to List of tallest buildings in Tijuana. Courcelles 00:38, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
ING Commercial America Building (Tijuana)[edit]
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I don't see enough to indicate this particular building is notable any more than other medium height buildings. It's only 14 floors and the sources don't seem to indicate anything notable about it. Shadowjams (talk) 23:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep - It is notable for its height in Tijuana and represents Internationale Nederlanden Groep activities in Baja California and Mexico. On another note, the article has just been created and deleting it in the stages of its infancy would prevent the addition of further notable material to the article. 08OceanBeachS.D. 00:50, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Speedy Keep Criteria #1, "fails to advance an argument for deletion" (fallacious content argument and all of two clicks to do the WP:BEFORE preparation). Or Keep as per policy at WP:ATD, "If the page can be improved, this should be solved through regular editing, rather than deletion." No evidence that the page cannot be improved, etc. Unscintillating (talk) 20:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- You apparently aren't very familiar with the speedy keep criteria... they're located here: WP:SK. You might familiarize yourself with the 5 criteria, none of which are relevant in your already questionable statement above. Not sure what point you're trying to make, but it sure isn't policy related. Shadowjams (talk) 09:32, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:DEL is a policy, and I've quoted from it. You could defeat my "absence of evidence" assertion by providing evidence that the page cannot be improved. You have chosen not to do so, so my assertion stands. Unscintillating (talk) 06:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Two editors have failed to find coverage of this subject. Have you looked, yourself? I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 06:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:DEL is a policy, and I've quoted from it. You could defeat my "absence of evidence" assertion by providing evidence that the page cannot be improved. You have chosen not to do so, so my assertion stands. Unscintillating (talk) 06:02, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- You apparently aren't very familiar with the speedy keep criteria... they're located here: WP:SK. You might familiarize yourself with the 5 criteria, none of which are relevant in your already questionable statement above. Not sure what point you're trying to make, but it sure isn't policy related. Shadowjams (talk) 09:32, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Other than being included in a database, there seems to be no independent coverage of it. FuFoFuEd (talk) 20:22, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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DeleteThere's no official policy for the notability of buildings. But, if we're arguing over its architectural status, consider that it is not relatively tall compared to buildings in the world at large. This source notes that it is the 11th tallest in the country. I think that's a stretch for notability (also, ask.com is an unreliable source). The claim that it is associated with a business is also not. Finally, and most importantly, the building is definitely not covered in-depth by third-party reliable sources. A search for this building turns up zilch for me. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 04:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to List of tallest buildings in Tijuana. Nipsonanomhmata (Talk) 17:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge and Redirect to List of tallest buildings in Tijuana per Nipson. However, I'm not sure what information can be merged over appropriately without giving the building undue weight on the page. I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 18:41, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. and userify Courcelles 00:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Aerolíneas Sudamericanas[edit]
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This is just some failed business project. The airline did not operate a single flight, so it fails the general notability guideline: This is just a plan, nothing with any encyclopedic relevance. Also, there is only one significant coverage in reliable third party sources [13] (which was given as a keep-reason during the first afd debate), but this seems to be just a re-phrasing of the information given by the airline officials. To me, this fails WP:CORP. (For comparison, have a look at Baltia Air Lines: It was deleted even though there had been a lager amount of significant coverage). AdAstra reloaded (talk) 08:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- To make my point clear: This is not about whether there is significant coverage, but whether a proposed business plan without any noteworthy consequences should be notable enough to be covered in a Wikipedia article or not. AdAstra reloaded (talk) 10:15, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Comment As I mentioned in the last AfD, there is something more to this company failing (i.e. political interference) than the article suggests (see my links from the previous AfD). However, I agree that in its current form it is not worthy of an article. I am not sure if there have been any noteworthy consequences of the failing (the Boliviafm article suggests that political interference was also involved with LAB, and since it failed shortly after, may have been involved in its demise, but that is pure speculation on my part), or if a buisness failing due to a government attempting to protect its own companies counts as notable. Finally, there seems to be very close connections with this airline and LAB, and potentially (especially the issues resulting in its demise) could be merged to that page. Unfortunetly I am not in a position to be able to do this due to time contsrtains, etc. but the course of action that I see it should be either A) flag it for recovery and see if anything more comes up or B) deletion. Bottom line, in its current form it should not be kept. Ravendrop 17:41, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete without prejudice to re-creation if someone wants to write an article with sources to show that this airline met the general notability guidelines despite the fact that it never actually operated a flight. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:15, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per Metropolitan's rationale. I hesitate to use the article's current status as a reason to delete if we have sources. But even the person who found them agrees the viability of the article is questionable. Maybe leave the talk page and list the known sources, in case someone more knowledgeable and with access to things like "Flap Internacional Magazine, 433" comes along later? John Slocum (talk) 18:24, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment/Request If the outcome of this process is delete, can an admin move the page into my userspace. I will have some time in 3-4 weeks to have a closer look at the sources and improve the article if it is indeed viable. Ravendrop 18:47, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Joséphine de La Baume[edit]
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I've arrived at her page thru her more notable fiancee. Did some research and realized that she is not yet notable. Possible vanity page. A few small film parts and a fledgling pop group with her brother is all. ᴳᴿᴲᴳᴼᴿᴵᴷ☺ᶤᶯᵈᶸᶩᶢᵉ 14:31, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Her supposed music career has yet to begin and the little acting she's done has been restricted to basically playing extras. What this hinges on is whether her (several) mentions in Vogue, status as a lingerie model and engagement to Mark Ronson combine to make her notable.... Delete for failing WP:ENT, IMHO. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 00:53, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Courcelles 00:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Marzia Risaliti[edit]
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Contested PROD. The subject fails the notability of WP:ENTERTAINER. I have been unable to find reliable sources for the actress. Many of the websites provided in the article do not even include her name, and are just about the production she was in. The websites that do list her name only list her in the cast section, and do not discuss her performance or career at all. Inks.LWC (talk) 23:32, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Author has blanked the page twice ([14], [15]). Both instances were reverted. OP has since contributed to the page, adding and removing external links. Not sure if it still qualifies as speedy under G7 since the OP has taken up editing again since he/she blanked the page.Oops. I see the blanking was done after the deletion nomination. Carry on. Steamroller Assault (talk) 18:03, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply] - Delete per WP:RS and WP:ENT. I couldn't find anything looking like an independent reliable secondary source in a Google search. Richwales (talk · contribs) 03:36, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Actually, the Italian news sources found are reliable enough for verifying this theaspian's work, but not being able to myself read Italian, they appear to be mentions of and not significant coverage of the stage work of this actress. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:39, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete: I could find no reliable English coverage of this person. Most of the Italian sources only seem to mention her in a list of cast members for a given production. Topher385 (talk) 20:54, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Using Google translate, it appears that the references cited are trivial mentions of this person. Steamroller Assault (talk) 20:58, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - I didn't see any biographical sources on Google and Yahoo. SwisterTwister talk 22:03, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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