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Comics and animation[edit]

Take My Muffin[edit]

Take My Muffin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of notability. Search throws up nothing obvious; cites are less than convincing. TheLongTone (talk) 15:06, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jiang Li[edit]

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Jiang Li (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Shang-Chi: Not sure how this article made it to the mainspace in the first place as it doesn't seem to pass WP:GNG. While the article may appear lengthy and have multiple sections at first sight, the Biography, Powers and abilities, and In other media sections are all focused on in-universe fictional content. The powers and abilities section lacks any citations, while the Biography and In other media sections solely rely on using the comics and the film as WP:PLOTSOURCE. This leaves only the Publication history section, but the majority of that section isn't even related to the subject person. The first paragraph discusses how Shang-chi's mother was supposed to be an unnamed white woman in early drafts (it is not about Jiang Li and that part is uncited). The subsequent paragraphs delve into the development of the Shang-chi comics, and has nothing to do with Jiang Li again. Only the final two paragraphs actually cover Jiang Li, with the first one focusing on the character's portrayal in the film, which already has its own section in the Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: M–Z#Ying Li. Half of the second paragraph discusses the release of a new Shang-chi comic series based on the film. Only half of the final paragraph contains original content about the character, supported by one secondary source from Comic Book Resources.—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 20:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In short, the entire article has only two properly cited sentences and one source that actually introduce the character. I have conducted additional searches on the internet, but I could only find one more comic review from CBR that briefly mentions the character.[1] Therefore, I don't believe this comic character deserves her own article at this point, as it fails to meet the criteria of GNG. Normally I would suggest redirecting it to the comic book series Shang-Chi. However, since the series itself is not notable enough to have its own article either, I would recommend filing for deletion.—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 20:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: The first nomination was from 2009, and was thus about a different topic (a non-fictional — and also non-notable — musician) than this comic book character introduced in 2021. (No opinion or further comment at this time.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:08, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Comics and animation. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to List of Marvel Comics characters: J#Jiang Li in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE. It has no benefit to let that section referring here hanging. Aside from the mentioned sources, there's a web page on the character with some commentary here. Refinery29 as an entertainment news website can be considered reliable for our subject area here, right? I believe with regard to notability, the comics version Jian Li and the Marvel Cinematic Universe version Ying Li should be looked at together, as they are closely related. But as Ying Li does not currently have its own page and I currently have no time for a more intense search, I can't tell if they meet the notability threshold. Please let me know in case anyone finds more secondary sources. Daranios (talk) 11:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Shang-Chi - Unfortunately, I am not convinced at all that this character has even the small bit of notability needed to be included on one of the massive "Marvel Character Lists". As the nomination rightly describes, almost none of the content of this article, and very few of the non-primary sources, are even about this character at all or even mention her. And the few sources that do exist specifically on this character are extremely trivial. Rather than worrying about leaving the section at List of Marvel Comics characters: J#Jiang Li hanging, that section should just not be included on that list and should be removed. As her only claim to notability is being the mother of Shang-Chi, and her recent roles in the storylines where she was recently introduced are pretty extensively covered at that article, Redirecting to there would be a sufficient WP:ATD. Rorshacma (talk) 15:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Changed my vote to a Redirect. My original rationale for deletion was that both Ying Li and the Shang-chi comic series were not available destinations for moving the page. However, I find both Daranios and Rorshacma's arguments reasonable, and I believe Rorshacma's suggestion is slightly better. There isn't much to say about this character even if it were moved to the list article, aside from stating that "she is Shang-chi's mother" and "she is inspired by the film character." Therefore, I changed my vote to a redirect to Shang-chi.—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 16:08, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/Redirect to List of Marvel Comics characters: J#Jiang Li to avoid WP:FANCRUFT while retaining material to a more appropriate location for this subject. Redirecting to Shang-Chi would not prove as useful as we shouldn't merge more content on related characters to that article when a comics list entry already exists. Trailblazer101 (talk) 06:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The issue, though, is that if we avoid WP:FANCRUFT, there really isn't anything left to merge to a character list. This is a very minor, recently introduced character that just does not really have any good sourcing to show even a small bit a notability. Merging every character to massive character lists, even ones that are completely non-notable, just makes massive lists filled with non-notable, poorly sourced information. Rorshacma (talk) 16:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jontesta: But that section currently only contains a link here. So in my view it not very helpful to redirect to a basically empty section that then just tells us that this is some Marvel character but not any context. Shouldn't at least a brief character description, development of the character over time - American White woman, then scion of Ta Lo, then the adaption into film as Ying Li - based on the primary and secondary sources we have, be put into that target section to make things clear for the interested reader? Daranios (talk) 09:36, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The idea would be to merge over some content from this article to that section to retain a brief overview of this character. Trailblazer101 (talk) 15:47, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One of the rationales when I was nominating the article for deletion is because of the lack of content. Aside from "she is Shang-chi's mother" and "the character is inspired by the film's counterpart", there is nothing else to say. The fact that she is Shang-chi's mother can be added to Shang-chi's biography, and the film counterpart already has a section in Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe: M–Z. A similar example I could think of is Darcy Lewis. The fact that Lewis was an MCU original character who later appeared in the comics was mentioned in the film character's section in the MCU character list, so it is also a considerable option for Jiang Li's case. Mentioning that Shang-chi's mother was intended to be a white woman in early drafts shouldn't be added to Jiang Li's biography, since that simply wasn't this character. So I don't really see a point of adding a super minor character of two sentences to the list article. A redirect to Shang-chi would be sufficient.—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 11:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hermie and Friends[edit]

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Granted that I don't know what reference sources would discuss this Christian animated children's show but I didn't find anything in my online search that wasn't either user-generated content, product-focused (promotion) or sites that allowed users to view episodes. I found no secondary sources or SIGCOV. One site called it an "award-winning" show but I never could locate what that award was. Given the detail of content about the characters, I think this article mainly serves as a nostalgia page for IP editors to write about a series they might have watched when they were younger. Dare I say it? I don't think it is notable or encyclopedic. Liz Read! Talk! 22:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Toughpigs, I'm impressed by your diligence. We have so many articles on marginal children's television series. I guess this one did have some coverage, at least in Wichita. Liz Read! Talk! 05:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep this UT Daily Beacon review is independent, extensive, and as RS as any college student publication would be. In combination with the above, that would be a notability pass. Jclemens (talk) 05:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Of note but not contributing to notability, Tim Conway's obituaries do seem to mention this series (he voiced the main character) among his other clearly more well-known roles. Jclemens (talk) 05:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 07:12, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sindhuja Rajaraman[edit]

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Sindhuja Rajaraman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Ok look, there's been a bunch of back and forth on this article, including the previous nomination being overturned from keep to no consensus. I've done some digging on the subject, and here's my conclusions:

1. This individual has not won a Guinness World Record. This appears to be a miscited claim from them saying they had submitted a world record attempt for "fastest created movie" for creating a 3 minute animated movie in 10 hours. This attempt was not recorded by the Guinness Book of World Records. In the previous nomination, it was commented by several keep voters that the 3rd source in this article is from a reliable source. Given that they have printed this very simply false claim in the second sentence, I propose it be disregarded.

2. From what I can see, this individual's appointment was by her father's friend (described as her mentor) and carried pretty limited scope of responsibilities. This article seems to explain it best - https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/bs-people-sindhuja-rajamaran-111032400058_1.html

3. WP:NEWSORGINDIA was not mentioned in the previous nomination, but I would like to comment that I think it makes this specific claim of notability extra dubious.

No ill will here, she seems like a smart woman making a good way in the world, but this marketing stunt is her *only* source of notability. It seems like it will be very difficult to write an encyclopaedic article about her because the only sources covering her are local puff pieces about how great she is. BrigadierG (talk) 22:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: We literally just closed this less than 3 weeks ago. Let it rest for a bit. There is nothing that's changed in a month. Any "untruths" lets call them (as mentioned above), can be removed from the article by edit, not be deletion. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion closed as no consensus which doesn't hold prejudice to renomination. Given that the most recent coverage for this individual is from 7 years ago or so, I don't think much is going to change about their notability status. At best, waiting stirs the voter pool a bit. BrigadierG (talk) 17:04, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Businesspeople, Women, Comics and animation, and Tamil Nadu. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Soft deletion is not an option as it was JUST at a previous AFD discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please note that Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 April 6 explicitly allowed the renom. Suggest a focus on content and not process.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 00:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: For my part I'm not seeing anything recent or meeting RS about this subject, and I'm not satisfied with the applied or presented sources meeting WP:BLP. Reading the DRV leads me to believe there is not much community support for keeping (as the side comments in this process might lead one to believe). BusterD (talk) 15:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - the previous AfD found coverage spanning a period from 2011 to 2019. 8 years is too long of an "event" to invoke WP:BLP1E and the nature of the "event" in this case is not well defined. The fact that there has not been significant coverage since 2019 is not a reason to delete per WP:NOTTEMPORARY. ~Kvng (talk) 14:38, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Namethatisnotinuse Namethatisnotinuse (talk) 22:53, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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