Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 15
December 15[edit]
Pages with short description[edit]
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 09:30, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Categories with short description (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Drafts with short description (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Files with short description (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Help pages with short description (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Modules with short description (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Portals with short description (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Project pages with short description (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Templates with short description (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: As a follow-up to the past deletions of Category:User pages with short description and Category:Disambiguation pages with short description, all of these are redundant to Special:WhatLinksHere in exactly the same way. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:59, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment – Category:Disambiguation pages with short descriptions is alive and well, having been renamed. However, it might be considered redundant, in namespace at least, as all mainspace dabs are currently in the category. Certes (talk) 11:47, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- The result of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 12#Category:Disambiguation pages with short descriptions as delete. It just hasn't been fully implemented yet. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:32, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. I don't see a purpose for these maintenance categories. Daask (talk) 16:22, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Mayors by city in New Zealand[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 23#Category:Mayors by city in New Zealand
Category:Key-changing songs[edit]
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 09:32, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining quality of these songs. If the key of a song is considered non-defining per this CfD, hard to imagine how songs in which the keys change can be. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 03:38, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 12:33, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Rlendog (talk) 13:33, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. If kept, it may be worth renaming to Category:Songs with modulations (see modulation (music)). Grutness...wha? 14:43, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, non-defining. The category system is not a place to create lists of every possible characteristic you can think of that happens to describe two or more things; we categorize topics on their defining characteristics, not just on every single characteristic they have. Bearcat (talk) 14:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Merge. A quick Google search for "key change" Billboard, with quotation marks around the first two words, shows that there is interest in key changes, including this one from Billboard from 2016, and several from the past month, such as this one from NPR, the latter of which is already a citation on Modulation (music), under "Popularity." So, the concept of a key change is notable, so I would suggest either following Grutness' suggestion to move it to Category:Songs with modulations, or creating an article at List of songs with key changes or List of songs with modulations. Seckends (talk) 16:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 21:44, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, creating a list as User:Seckends suggested can be done irrespective of the fate of the category, as long as it meets general criteria for lists. For anyone to create the list after deletion of the category, here are the articles currently in it: 2 Be Loved (Am I Ready), After Last Night, Because of You (Kelly Clarkson song), Dear Future Husband,Dynamite (BTS song), Haven't Met You Yet, Leave the Door Open, Love Story (Taylor Swift song), Night Changes, Perfect Illusion. - Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Having modulation in a song does not make the song notable. However, there is an article Modulation (music) and would be an admirable blue link from any of these songs, if applicable. --Richhoncho (talk) 20:52, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Architecture in the Ottoman Empire[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 23#Category:Architecture in the Ottoman Empire
Category:Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse allegations[edit]
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 09:34, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This category is inappropriate for BLP articles, if only for WP:NONDEF reasons: the accusers of Weinstein are not defined by, and would not want to be defined by, their status as accusers, but rather by their own careers. The minority of non-BLP entries including the subcategory can be moved to the parent Category:Harvey Weinstein. Sandstein 13:44, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Well, I fail to understand why it's not appropriate to have the category as long as all of these BLP's have already covered these accusations in first place. TheWikiholic (talk) 18:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support, not a defining characteristic of e.g. Amber Anderson. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:22, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- Support - people are not allegations. Oculi (talk) 15:45, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as non-defining for the entries about people. It is defining for the six entries which are not about people, but four of those are members of Category:Works about the Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse allegations (which can be changed to be a subcat of Category:Harvey Weinstein) and the other two (the parent article and Weinstein effect) can be included in Category:Harvey Weinstein. Hut 8.5 12:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Populated places under jurisdiction of Moscow[edit]
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 December 23#Category:Populated places under jurisdiction of Moscow