User talk:Bearcat

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Happy New Year

Happy New Year 2021 I hope your New Year holiday is enjoyable and the coming year is much better than the one we are leaving behind. Best wishes from Los Angeles.   // Timothy :: talk

Editor conflict

I have been adding more current photos I’ve taken of subjects and places in Sheboygan but User:Mrschimpf has reverted several of those edits, falsely claiming I’m some such of competitor in local media in Sheboygan which I don’t own any interests in media publishing in Sheboygan County. In one edit on Shoreline Metro, my photo of a bus in service was removed because he claimed permissions were questionable and the photo was posed. Then there is the challenge of updating the photo on Sheboygan, Wisconsin. Asher Heimermann (talk

Request on 19:06:44, 12 August 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by YaSiRu11

• YaSiRu11 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Ridma Weerawardena (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

• "Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country [1]

• "Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network" [2][3]

Asopa Films - Reinstate

Hi Bearcat,

Looking to get some pages made by Asopa Films put back up and to also save one from being deleted

Aisha and Rahul (2009) - this page has been taken down already, NON WIKI PAGE - https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Aisha_and_Rahul Depth of Pyaar (2019) - this page has been taken down already, NON WIKI PAGE - https://en.everybodywiki.com/Depth_of_Pyaar Zombie Beach (2010) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_Beach

Would like to discuss why these pages were taken down and how I can get them put back up and also make sure they stay up.

Regards, Winter

Wikipedia elections policy

Bearcat,

Please link me to this wikipedia elections policy in which you discussed on my talk page.

Thanks!

Merry Christmas Bearcat

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Draft: Iowa News & Views

You declined this draft, but I made changes to it that I think solved the initial issue. If you could take another look and give me some feedback I would be appreciative. Thanks for your time. WUH34 (talk) 4:45, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

help with vandalism

Since November 16, 2022, a user who is not logged in, just identified by their IP address has been adding information to the San Antonio FC page that has no sources to back it up with. Specifically they are adding a player to the roster when there is no evidence on the internet, either by the club, league, or anywhere else that this transaction has occurred. I have undone the edit multiple times but they keep adding it back. Please assist.

1/13/23 - The vandalism is occurring again. Would you be able to ban the IP addresses that are adding the incorrect information? TYIA

Please fix link-inside-link errors

With your restoration of {{infobox gridiron football person}}, articles are newly displaying link-inside-link errors. Can you please fix the ones that have appeared on this list? Thanks. P.S. I fixed the template's syntax errors for you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Islam Mamedov

Draft:Islam Mamedov

Hello Bearcat. I am thankful that you decided to correct mistakes on my article. Anyways the reason I am writing this is because can you have a look at it and see if it qualifies enough to move it into main space of wikipedia or not? Harris Zaindi (talk) 04:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Populated places in Yei River State

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Populated places in Jubek State

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Help with improving a draft article

Hello Bearcat,

please I would appreciate it, if you could help me look through over a recent article I wrote on an African film Draft:Obara'M, to ensure the citations are reliable.

Your help would be greatly appreciated, thank you Aivrie (talk) 03:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

April 2024

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 23:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Invitation

Hello Bearcat! You've been invited to join WikiProject The Weeknd a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles and lists related to The Weeknd. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page where you can join the discussion, see a list of open tasks and add your name to the list of participants. Thank You! User:Dxneo (talk) 13:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

dxneo (talk) 01:37, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:User vot-2

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Move from the workshop to Atar Mayner

Hello, could you move this article from my workshop to this New article Atar Mayner. Please --GiladSeg (talk) 16:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello, could you help me create it as an article? --GiladSeg (talk) 18:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Not without being able to read the sources to determine whether or not they're reliable or notability-supporting at all, no. Bearcat (talk) 18:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

And to what extent the Israeli sources are not reliable, tell me --GiladSeg (talk) 18:48, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I can't read them, so I have no way to tell whether they are or not because I can't read Hebrew. So no, I can't help you. Bearcat (talk) 18:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Haaretz is an important media --GiladSeg (talk) 19:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

And most of the sourcing isn't from Haaretz, so that doesn't tell me much of anything. Bearcat (talk) 19:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

And the medium El País gives you more reliability, it is a Spanish medium has sources independent GiladSeg (talk) 19:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

And I can't read Spanish, so I'm in no position to evaluate whether it supports notability or not. Bearcat (talk) 20:20, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

But at least you recognize that El País (Spain) and Haaretz (Israel) are independent and important media even if you do not understand the origin of an article or a singer GiladSeg (talk) 20:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

And you understand that it takes a lot more to support notability than just the name of a publication? The simple presence of footnotes to newspapers isn't enough in and of itself, and I have to be able to read what those sources are saying in order to determine whether they're actually supporting notability or not. An article has to also be about him (as opposed to "briefly mentioning his name while being principally about someone or something else") doing something that would pass a notability criterion (as opposed to trivial coverage like "person wins unimportant local award from unimportant local club") — which means I have to be able to read a source in order to determine whether it passes both of those tests or not, but obviously can't do that if I can't read the language it's written in? Which means I cannot help you, which means you need to leave me alone? Bearcat (talk) 20:52, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:IMAX venues in the United Kingdom has been nominated for merging

Category:IMAX venues in the United Kingdom has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Let'srun (talk) 20:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Relevance Warren Meck

Hello, I was trying to find and fix this article Warren Meck and I'm afraid to tell you that there is no relevance to it at all and its sources are from blogs. You see the notoriety of this article GiladSeg (talk) 04:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

• Nominate Warren Meck for erasure GiladSeg (talk) 19:43, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
  • What does any of this have to do with me? I've never touched, or even seen, that page in my life. Bearcat (talk) 19:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Glen Stace-Redemption Game

Hello Bearcat. Do you by chance have a copy of this CD?

Thank you, JR 99.239.220.196 (talk) 19:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Elementary schools in Sarnia

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User vandalizing pages

My friend, @Palmbird99, is vandalizing Wikipedia pages (specifically Omori) because he does not like said game. He also put my personal info in a few edits. Please help! Thanks, SirGamers 97.80.150.82 (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Elementary schools in Lambton County

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Wiki Education at its finest

In case you're wondering why Cafeteria was a mess (pun unintended) when you came across it: Talk:Cafeteria#Wiki Education assignment: Writing 10 - Both Classes. Sdkb ^talk 22:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:High-importance Redirect-Class amphibian and reptile articles

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A concern

You have deleted several redirects with the summary "redirect to a list with no other useful information beyond a repetition of the name"; while that is sometimes used in WP:RFD nominations statements it is not WP:CSD and there is no evidence any other CSD apply, as such please undelete the pages and list them at RFD, thank you. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:60AD:E490:2122:CA50 (talk) 04:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Canadian musicians by ethnic or national origin has been nominated for renaming

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Please stop removing Draft cats

I know you are just trying to help, but please stop removing Draft categories as you did in this edit. This merely results in unnecessary extra work for one or more editors: one to tag the Draft as uncategorized, one to remove the uncategorized tag and add the categories back in again, and one to explain the situation. Instead, just leave the categories in the Draft where they are, and surround them with {{Draft categories| ... }}. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

This reply message moved here from User talk:Mathglot.

As I keep telling people, for a variety of reasons it takes a significantly longer amount of time to disable categories than it does to merely remove them:

• sometimes the page is in bad categories that it wouldn't belong in even if it were in mainspace, which makes more cleanup work down the line if they're just left there,
• sometimes the page is in redlinked categories that don't even exist at all, which makes more cleanup work down the line if they're just left there,
• novice draft creators who don't know standard Wikipedia process don't always place the categories where they're normally expected to be, or sometimes place more than one separate cluster of categories in more than one different place in the draft, meaning that they end up having to be searched for.

So, for all of those reasons, removing the categories from a page takes only a few seconds per page, while disabling them can take up to two or three minutes per page. Sure, that isn't a very big burden if you're dealing with just one or two categorized drafts at a time — but if I'm dealing with the comprehensive weekly system report of categorized drafts, there are hundreds of pages to deal with all at once. Which means it's already a two or three hour job even just to get through it the quicker way, and would become a 12 to 24 hour job if I did it the longer way.

So, sure, to the outside observer it doesn't seem like that big a burden to invest the extra time into disabling the categories instead of removing them, because the outside observer is only seeing one or two pages that they were interested in — but to the editor who actually has to power through a batch of hundreds of categorized drafts in one shot, the extra time accumulates into a much, much bigger burden than they can actually be expected to volunteer to take on. So, sure, if I come across one or two pages in isolation, disabling categories instead of removing them isn't that much of an imposition on my time — but if I'm having to get through hundreds of pages at once, it adds up to a tremendous imposition on my time. Bearcat (talk) 16:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Understood; I get it; it definitely takes longer that way. but there’s a problem, because just removing them, creates triple the problem for other editors, who are adding in a no-categories template, followed by another editor removing the template again and putting the categories back in and has to add the draft categories template, followed in this case, at least, by an explanation that have been removed and draft-protecting them. Also, if it takes less time to just remove them, which is definitely true, it takes a whole lot more to replace them again, and protect them with the draft categories template, which is what I’ve been doing.

I apologize for the couple dozen notifications you got today about the removals, and it may be best to go into your settings and disable notifications for me so you don’t get these notifications all the time when I restore the draft-protected categories.

But honestly, removing the categories isn’t really an improvement in many cases, and if it’s too burdensome to go through them and draft protect them, then maybe the best thing is not to remove them at all. Given how repetitive and pattern-based the problem is, I think there may be a better solution for everyone involving a user script. If we go to the the script requests page, we can request a script to be written that will just do this automatically. Then neither of us or anyone else will ever have to bother with this issue again. As things stand now, I just see this as a giant waste of your time, and mine, on something that ought to be done by bot and could be automated fairly easily, thus freeing us up to do something more productive. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh, trust me, I've asked for a bot to look after that before. Not all, certainly, but a lot of drafts have categories on them because they were created in mainspace and then got sandboxed by another editor for lacking sourcing or whatever, without that other editor taking the extra step of disabling the categories in the process — so since there's already a bot that detects such moves and tags them as {{drafts moved from mainspace}} anyway, I've asked if that bot could automatically disable any active categories that are on the draft at the same time, so that we could invest a whole lot less time into draft category cleanup, but that bot's maintainer refused. So I tried asking if another bot could be set loose on the task, only to have no action taken on that request at all.

Of course, another alternative would be if the report were generated daily, so that instead of updating once a week with a couple hundred categorized drafts all in one shot, it was immediately catching 20 to 30 categorized drafts every 24 hours, so that they could be dealt with promptly in a shorter amount of time per day — but it doesn't, so we're left with having to work within the constraints of the report as it exists.

But also, AFC approval doesn't happen on entire batches of hundreds of drafts all at once — each AFC reviewer approves or rejects one page at a time, and lots of drafts don't get approved at all — so any "extra" time that has to be put into categorizing the approved draft amounts to a couple of minutes at most, while the extra time that has to be put into polluted-category cleanup can add up to half or more of an entire day. So as long as pollution cleanup remains a task that human editors have to spend time doing, the editors who do it have to be able to get it done in the shortest amount of time possible.

I mean, I'd dearly love to not have to spend nearly as much time on it anymore, but it's not a task that can just be ignored outright — it's a thing I do because it has to get done, not a thing I do because I think it's fun or enjoyable. So until we do have the tools in place to automate it, I have to be able to minimize the amount of time that actually has to be spent on it, because getting drafts out of categories they shouldn't be in takes hours and hours longer to deal with fixing than putting pages into categories in the first place does. Bearcat (talk) 20:36, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Interesting to hear te history behind it. I’ll see if I can get some movement going on a bit, whether the same one with a new task, or a brand new one. Thanks for the detailed explanation, that gives me a better window into what is going on. Mathglot (talk) 12:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:20th-century French classical violinists

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