Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Kerala

WP:DELSORT/Kerala

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Sayed Abbas Ali Shihab Thangal[edit]

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Fails WP:BASIC. References are trivial mentions or don't mention subject. Can't find anything on Google/news about him. C F A 💬 02:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep proved WP:GNG and WP:NPOL,He is a community leader, a politician who holds positions, As such, he belongs to the category of a Sayyid of major denominations have generally been held to be notable ~~ User:Spworld2 (talk) 01:22, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeevan TV[edit]

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It doesn't appear to meet WP:ORG / WP:GNG. 1st AfD was no consensus, low participation (2). Boleyn (talk) 16:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep It proves its Notability quality in media/television WP:NTV and WP:GNG, Jeevan TV one of the first TV channels from Kerala, India ~ Spworld2 (talk) 9:20, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

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Next Kerala Legislative Assembly election[edit]

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WP:NCRYSTAL. Nothing about the election has been declared yet, no WP:RS are currently talking about it. Should be recreated closer to the election, once actual sources start discussing it.

I've found 3 sources for this election, but they're not in depth enough to require the article right now, imo - [1] [2] [3] Soni (talk) 13:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Next elections pass WP:CRYSTAL. I'm not sure what makes this one different. SportingFlyer T·C 23:03, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There will be a number of duplicate comments on this given how 5 different AFDs were based on the same prior consensus (they didn't fall under WP:MULTIAFD by my read). So I'm going to make all general comments about evaluation of NCRYSTAL and similar on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Next Assam Legislative Assembly election instead of replying the same things 5x. I'll keep finding sources or replying about sources in each specific AFD. Soni (talk) 23:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Too many of these future prediction pages. WP:TOOSOON. Way down in the future and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, nor is it a collection of unverifiable content. RangersRus (talk) 11:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete Again, two years off is too far in the future, judging from the information given. In any case it should be 2026 Kerala Legislative Assembly election given that it has a date. "Next election" articles are either speculative or misnamed and need to be suppressed. Mangoe (talk) 18:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kerala Gazetted Officers' Federation[edit]

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Declined prod. A google news search found only 3 sources of routine coverage. Fails WP:ORG and GNG. LibStar (talk) 23:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, notable organization. When you say only 3 sources, in which language did you google? Here are some results, [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17] --Soman (talk) 00:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
English. Most of the sources you found are local and we need wider coverage as per WP:AUD. I would caution using youtube as a source as per Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources. LibStar (talk) 00:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- As I'm sure you are aware, not all news around the world is in English. The sources here include Mathrubhumi which has a readership of 970,000 daily, Asianet (TV channel), Kerala Kaumudi, etc. If you read WP:AUD it literally says " Significant coverage in media with an international, national, or at least regional audience (e.g., the biggest daily newspaper in any US state) is a strong indication of notability." If Kerala was located in the US, it would be the second-most populous state after California. --Soman (talk) 01:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Baker Ninan Fenn[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. Half of the hits I get from searching for sources (string:"baker ninan fenn") are non-responsive; the other half are useless as sources for Fenn. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: This is the third time of thereabout. Please look at WP:BISHOPS. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yakob Elias[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. Source search (string:"yakob elias") returns nothing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:20, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Clean up and sourcing is not deletion. A Metropolitan of a major diocese is notable by virtue of his office per WP:BISHOPS. I still believe sources may exist offline. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 02:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per above. This church is a part of the wider Orthodox church and there is no reason why its bishops would not be notable. Keralan bishops of all denominations seem to be challenged more than European ones, presumably because most sources will be in the local languages and/or offline. Here are some additional Eng lang ones, searching on "Yakob Mar Elias": [18], [19], [20]. Ingratis (talk) 05:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anthonios Yaqu'b[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure; both sources in the article are 404-compliant. Search for sources (string: "anthonios yaqub") turns up nothing. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: The sources have been fixed to not be dead; the first is of unknown authorship and the second doesn't discuss Yaqu'b in depth (though "Yaq'ub" gets name-dropped a fair bit). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 22:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:06, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I don't know much about Syriac Orthodox Church but heading a Metropolice of a major city Manglore satisfies WP:CLERGY. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 06:49, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abraham Julios[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. Google search (string:"abraham julios") turns up barely anything, and the lot of it is unusable as sources. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mathew Moolakkatt[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. The only sources I can find that discuss him at length (string: "Mathew Moolakkatt") are tied to a controversy and legal case about Catholic marriage practises. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:05, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I don't need to talk much here. I thought this has been emphasized before, that the Bishop or Archbishop of a particular diocese or Archdiocese is notable by the virtue of his office. It is an elected office for Wikipedia's sake. See WP:NBISHOP too, or WP:CLERGY. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Koorilos[edit]

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Non-notable religious figure. Google search (string:"thomas koorilos") turns up no usable sources what-so-ever, mainly profiles and name-drops. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 20:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Diocesan bishops of major denominations have generally been held to be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:22, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me to a specific policy or discussion that supports that position? Bear in mind WP:BLP also applies here! —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 16:04, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES illustrates the consensus. BLP is irrelevant as to his notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BLP is, however, relevant to what sort of content the article can have. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 15:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Though a weak keep per WP:SIGCOV slight, the subject meets WP:SNG for religious related. A metropolitan Bishop is notable and there is possibility of sources about him. Clean up is not deletion pls! Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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