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After considering /Evidence and discussing proposals with other arbitrators, parties and others at /Workshop place proposals which are ready for voting here.

Arbitrators should vote for or against each point or abstain.

  • Only items that receive a majority "support" vote will be passed.
  • Items that receive a majority "oppose" vote will be formally rejected.
  • Items that do not receive a majority "support" or "oppose" vote will be open to possible amendment by any Arbitrator if he so chooses. After the amendment process is complete, the item will be voted on one last time.

Conditional votes for or against and abstentions should be explained by the Arbitrator before or after his/her time-stamped signature. For example, an Arbitrator can state that she/he would only favor a particular remedy based on whether or not another remedy/remedies were passed.

On this case, no Arbitrators is/are recused and 5 is/are inactive, so 5 votes are a majority.

For all items

Proposed wording to be modified by Arbitrators and then voted on. Non-Arbitrators may comment on the talk page.

Motions and requests by the parties[edit]

Place those on the discussion page.

Proposed temporary injunctions[edit]

Four net "support" votes needed to pass (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first vote is normally the fastest an injunction will be imposed.

Template[edit]

1) {text of proposed orders}

Support:
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed final decision[edit]

Proposed principles[edit]

Neutral point of view[edit]

1) Wikipedia:Neutral point of view contemplates that nationalist perspectives of both minority and majority groups should be included in Wikipedia articles.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 21:03, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. James F. (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Kelly Martin (talk) 04:49, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  4. →Raul654 19:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Jayjg (talk) 19:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Neutralitytalk 21:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose:
Abstain:

No personal attacks[edit]

2) Wikipedia:No personal attacks forbids personal attacks. As applied to this case, as editors with a nationalistic point of view are welcome to contribute that point of view, it is inappropriate to attack them for holding such views, or to bait or badger them with respect to those views.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 21:03, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Kelly Martin (talk) 00:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  3. James F. (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  4. →Raul654 19:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Jayjg (talk) 19:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Neutralitytalk 21:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose:
Abstain:

Probation[edit]

3) Editors who are unable or unwilling to conform to Wikipedia policies with respect to issues which arise with respect to certain articles may be temporarily or permanently banned from editing those articles.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 21:03, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Kelly Martin (talk) 00:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  3. James F. (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  4. →Raul654 19:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Jayjg (talk) 19:50, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Neutralitytalk 21:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed findings of fact[edit]

Focus of dispute[edit]

1) The nominal focus of this dispute is the articles Arvanites and Arvanitic language. The nominal dispute is over whether the Arvanitic language is to be characterized as a language in its own right or as a dialect of Albanian language [1].

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 21:20, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Kelly Martin (talk) 00:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  3. James F. (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  4. →Raul654 19:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Jayjg (talk) 19:51, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Neutralitytalk 21:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose:
Abstain:

Personal attacks[edit]

2) Matia.gr, Theathenae, and REX have made personal attacks regarding each other with respect to nationalistic attitudes, see Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/REX/Workshop#Personal_attacks_and_incivility_by_REX

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 21:20, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Kelly Martin (talk) 00:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  3. James F. (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  4. →Raul654 19:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Jayjg (talk) 19:51, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Neutralitytalk 21:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed remedies[edit]

Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.

Personal attack parole[edit]

1) Matia.gr, Theathenae, and REX are placed on personal attack parole.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 13:07, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Kelly Martin (talk) 00:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  3. James F. (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  4. →Raul654 19:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Jayjg (talk) 19:52, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Neutralitytalk 21:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose:
Abstain:

Proposed enforcement[edit]

Enforcement by ban[edit]

1) The personal attack parole may be enforced by brief bans, up to a week in the case of repeat offenses.

Support:
  1. Fred Bauder 13:07, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Kelly Martin (talk) 00:35, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  3. James F. (talk) 01:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  4. →Raul654 19:38, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Jayjg (talk) 19:52, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Neutralitytalk 21:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose:
Abstain:

Discussion by Arbitrators[edit]

General[edit]

There may be a basis for a finding of edit warring. Although not named in the Request Theathenae (talk · contribs) is involved in the same complex of problems. Fred Bauder 21:30, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Motion to close[edit]

Four net "support" votes needed to close case (each "oppose" vote subtracts a "support")
24 hours from the first motion is normally the fastest a case will close.

  1. Everything has passed. →Raul654 20:08, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Close it. Kelly Martin (talk) 21:30, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Neutralitytalk 21:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Jayjg (talk) 22:47, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Close Fred Bauder 02:25, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]