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Anyone, whether directly involved or not, may add evidence to this page. Please make a header for your evidence and sign your comments with your name.

When placing evidence here, please be considerate of the arbitrators and be concise. Long, rambling, or stream-of-conciousness rants are not helpful.

As such, it is extremely important that you use the prescribed format. Submitted evidence should include a link to the actual page diff; links to the page itself are not sufficient. For example, to cite the edit by Mennonot to the article Anomalous phenomenon adding a link to Hundredth Monkey use this form: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anomalous_phenomenon&diff=5587219&oldid=5584644] [1].

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Evidence that the defendant must be aware of the case[edit]

[2] .`'mikka (t) 18:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence presented by Leifern[edit]

First assertion[edit]

Violations of WP:SOCK: Has assumed a number of identities, including User:Stop false Swedish Nationalism, User:No sources from Sweden, User:Art Dominique, User:Ppt, User:Pifarre, User:Digi Wiki, User:Steve Wondering, and probably many more.

Second assertion[edit]

Violations of WP:VAND, especially on user pages and talk pages:

[8] and undoubtedly more

Evidence presented by Drieakko[edit]

First assertion[edit]

Violations of WP:SOCK and WP:VAND on articles.

During the last 2 months, article Kvens of the past has been under sock puppet revert war, as well as Kvens (example [11]), Kings of Kvenland ([12]) and Kven language ([13]). Situation seems to have started earlier last year already. The revert is always to the same kind of half-imaginatory POV content (like [14]), that the user wants to push in Wikipedia in a way or another. Content overlaps and conflicts with several articles, user insisting that all related pages should be merged and replaced with his article. User often marks his vandalism as minor edits (example [15]). Constant article reverts have been done under sock puppets Orossius talks (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Hejsan to all ! (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Hej på dig (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Steve Wondering (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), PauWau (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), It'sAparty (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), WeBeToys (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Stimulater (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Kvenland's sons (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and so on.

User has only today (15.09.2006) adopted at least 4 more sock puppets that go on tampering the aforementioned articles (AnythingNew (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), What on earth (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Svensk unity (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Oikio Aikio (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)). --Drieakko 13:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The same behavior goes on without any change. [16], [17], [18]. --Drieakko 13:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The user is also spreading this to article about Varangians. [19]. --Drieakko 14:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Second assertion[edit]

Violations of WP:SOCK and WP:VAND on talk pages.

Sock puppets have taken over the related talk pages, the user pushing his POV under additional user names Kven kings (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), What on earth (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)(not a real username, only a fake signature), Wikipedians against vandalism (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Swedish girl (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and so on. All sock puppets ignore criticism presented against his actions and ideas in the talk page, making reasonable discussions with him difficult.

User usually expresses himself in Talk:Kven and Talk:Kvens of the past in an intimidating way, calling other users "proven vandals" and trying to turn discussions personal (example [20]). He is posting more or less the same long rants over and over again and lately also to several talk pages (Talk:Kven, Talk:Kvens of the past, Talk:Kven language, example [21], [22], [23]), trying to prevent any normal discussions before others have approved of his POV. Lately other users (including me) have started to revert his repeated posts (examples [24], [25], [26], [27]) on the related talk pages, in addition to his actions on the articles themselves. --Drieakko 04:15, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This week's sock puppets on talk pages seem to be at least Controlling vandalism (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Andopov G. (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Kvenland's daughters (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and Derbigum (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log). --Drieakko 16:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence presented by Fred-Chess[edit]

User has vandalized userpages[edit]

Kven-User misuses talkpages[edit]

The use of multiple sock-puppets on one and the same page, confuses the reader. Kven-User has also a habit of addressing his other sockpuppets, as though he has the support of many.

Kven-User is impossible to reason with[edit]

Here I will present that Kven-User makes the same arguments over and over again, and that discussions are futile.

General
Specific
Other users give up

I have seen several users giving up on the Kven-User, saying "this isn't going to get anywhere. Why not just block him".

Kven-User has made a vaste number of edits that have been reverted[edit]

I am awaiting answer from user:Mikkalai whether a CheckUser ever revealed which the sockpuppets were. / Fred-Chess 14:27, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will for the time being assume that those names listed at User:Mikkalai/arkven#Alphabetic list are all the same user. The pattern is rather obvious.

I assume here, that the edits were reverted because of consensus, mostly because they lacked verified sources. They are all the same pattern: They introduce material to make the Kvens seem more important.

The Kven-User started out by editing the articles Varangians and Kven in December 2005, and was reverted as follows:

Protections
  • Article Kven has been protected/semi-protected three times: By user:SlimVirgin 13-18 March, 2006 (vandalism, sockpuppetry ) ; By myself (Fred-Chess) 22-23 March 2006 (Lack of constructive additions) ; by user:Mikkalai 5 April 2006-henceforth ([no reason given]). [50]
  • Article Kvens of the past has been semi-protected two times: By user:Mikkalai 1-23 Aug 2006 (sockpuppet revert war), by myself (Fred-Chess) 2 Sep 2006-henceforth (repeated sock-puppet problem) [51]

Evidence presented by Labongo[edit]

User has vandalized many Northern Norway municipality articles[edit]

Violations of WP:VAND, on articles about muncipalities, villages, and rivers in Finnmark and Troms. Using several accounts including sock puppet Skalvelv (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and anonymous user 213.216.199.2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) the user has used cut-and-paste to add the same incorrect POV history section to many articles (one example: [52]).Labongo 14:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User has violated WP:NPA[edit]

Violations of WP:NPA on talk pages including Talk:Kven and Talk:Kvens of the past. Using sock puppets, anonymous user posts, or anonymous users "signing" as sock puppets, the user has accused editors disagreeing with him as vandals [53], threatened to delete or vandalize other editors comments [54], and deleted comments [55].Labongo 15:07, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User has created parallel versions of Kven article[edit]

The user has attempted to create a parallel version of the Kvens article by creating articles using a different spelling of the word such as [Kveeni] and [Kvæn].Labongo 10:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User has changed redirects[edit]

The user has changed redirect pages to the Kvens and Kvens of the past articles. One example: [Kvenland]. This and other redirects were protected after a request for protection [56] was posted on Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.Labongo 10:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User uses sockpuppets in revert war[edit]

Today October 11. The user has been involved in an edit war on Kvens, Kven language and Kvens of the past using the users Gunnar Holm 2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Greate one (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log), Goodevening (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and 213.216.199.10 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log). Example: [57]Labongo 14:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User only reverts articles[edit]

This is a hard accusation to prove. I present it in order to allow others, including the Kven user, to prove me wrong.

Since the end of July the user has only reverted articles to his own older version. All of his reverts have been reverted. So the user has not contributed with any improvements to the Kven articles since the end of July.Labongo 12:40, 14 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence presented by user Kraak[edit]

First of all I want to inform everyone that I have contributed to the article Kvens of the past using different IP addresses starting with 217 and 130. I am the user sighing "Why do I Bother", mentioned by Fred-Chess. My apologies for the mess.

Kven User assumes the name of another, well-known person[edit]

I suspect that Oikio Aikio is another sock-puppet of Kven User. "Oikio Aikio" means "Real Aikio" in Finnish. This seems to be a very crude attack against Ante Aikio, a relatively well-known Sami linguist who contributes to the English Wikipedia using his real name. In the edit history page of Kings of Kvenland, "Oikio Aikio" has claimed Ante Aikio to be a "fake Aikio"! Kraak 06:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence presented by user Ante Aikio[edit]

This message is just to confirm the blatant personal attack against me that user Kraak already reported above. I edit the Wikipedia under my real name Ante Aikio. I have noticed that there is an ongoing edit war in a number of Kven-related articles, caused by user Steve Wondering and his sockpuppets, but I have not been following this closely. However, on 15 September 2006 10:51-10:55, I reverted three vandal edits by this user at Kven [58], Kvens of the past [59] and Kings of Kvenland [60]. After this the user apparently created a sockpuppet Oikio Aikio, meaning 'the real Aikio' in Finnish (oikio is a dialectal form of oikea 'right, real'), and reverted my edits at Kings of Kvenland [61], calling me "the fake Aikio" in the edit summary. --AAikio 06:57, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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