Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 April 23

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April 23[edit]

File:Huntertown IN seal.jpg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 03:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Huntertown IN seal.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Davodd (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Dubious own-work claim. It's unclear if this seal is old enough to qualify for PD status. plicit 05:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As it is already at Commons, and also nominated for deletion there, we will probably delete it either way - whether as an unneeded duplicate or as a copyright violation. Felix QW (talk) 08:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Get Ready For This - 2 Unlimited.ogg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus -Fastily 00:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Get Ready For This - 2 Unlimited.ogg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by The lorax (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

De-PRODding rationale was this: Music sample should NOT be deleted as it is necessary to understand the article. Unfortunately, necessity rationale doesn't absolve the sample's potential failure to prove why omitting the sample harms the understanding of the whole song, the omission one part of WP:NFCC#8. The song was initially a composition, but then lyrics were added in another recording.

The whole sample is just music with one spoken line, and its role is the same as what free text already does: drive readers into seeking and then listening (versions of) the whole song. Furthermore, it doesn't fully represent (what) the whole song/composition (is about) and (how) the whole song/composition (had been done). George Ho (talk) 05:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The brief clip is shorter than most fair use audio commonly featured on Wikipedia, and I would argue is fairly representative of the entire song. The lorax (talk) 04:13, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Length of the sample isn't the main issue. The riff heard in the sample doesn't provide enough context about the entire song unless reliable sources prove its significance. So far, I haven't found sources substantially covering the riff and its significance to the song. George Ho (talk) 06:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 14:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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File:NamibiaCGA.png[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 03:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:NamibiaCGA.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This is not the logo of the Namibian team, it is the logo of the Namibia Commonwealth Games Association (which doesn't have an article), and thus fails WP:NFCC#8. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 09:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tree is definitely above TOO. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 15:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Commonwealth Games New Zealand.png[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 03:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Commonwealth Games New Zealand.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This is not the logo of the New Zealand team, it is the logo of the New Zealand Commonwealth Games Association (which doesn't have an article), and thus fails WP:NFCC#8. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: It is unclear whether this rendition of the NZ leaf is below TOO, but I think per the PCP this should be deleted. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 10:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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File:SEYCGA.png[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Whpq (talk) 04:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:SEYCGA.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This is not the logo of the Seychelles team, it is the logo of the Seychelles Commonwealth Games Association (which doesn't have an article), and thus fails WP:NFCC#8. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:26, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: below c:COM:TOO US. The only part that could be above TOO is the flags on either side of the Seychelles flag (I can't tell which one it is), but there isn't much sufficient artistic detail to differentiate it from other drawings of flags. Addition of mere shading does not constitute copyright protection (see File:Arkansas map by Sean Pecor.png). —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 10:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, does not meet WP:NFCC#8 as currently used. IMO the birds in the logo are sufficiently complex to warrant the creation of copyright, so this should not be converted to PD. -Fastily 08:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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File:Vanuatu Commonwealth Games.png[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Stifle (talk) 13:21, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Vanuatu Commonwealth Games.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 718 Bot (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This is not the logo of the Vanuatu team, it is the logo of the Vanuatu Commonwealth Games Association (which doesn't have an article), and thus fails WP:NFCC#8. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Below c:COM:TOO US, a PD flag and a symbol with little creativity with some text wrapped around is clearly below US TOO. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 09:55, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I could find no info about Vanuatu flag being PD in both Vanuatu & the US, so I don't think this is safe to move to Commons. I've started this MCQ thread to get more clarity. Assuming that this is indeed non-free, then it should be deleted as an WP:NFCC#8 violation; I found no substantial sourced critical commentary/coverage discussing specifically discussing this image in-depth in the article. -Fastily 00:50, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In this case at least, we're rendering the flag in such an abysmally low quality/detail that the main element that could be considered above TOO (the yellow thing in the middle left of the flag) is basically a circle. Your comments about the flag's copyright are probably correct, and may lead to a DR but they probably aren't applicable in this specific FFD. With no other real sources of artistic creativity/originality left, I would argue this is below TOO. I understand that the arrangement of several creative elements can indeed lead to copyright protection, but mere arrangement by itself alone usually does not (as exhibited here). —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 17:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - incorporating a copyrighted element means the work is non-free. AS noted by the nominator, this does not meet the non-free content criteria. -- Whpq (talk) 02:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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