Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2015 December 19

Debate on the Hadith – Deletion review is inapplicable. This page has not been deleted, but redirected. Disagreements about this are resolved through the normal editorial process. – Sandstein 22:01, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.

This page should be undeleted for the following reasons;

1) This page does not qualify for Wikipedia prime criteria for speedy deletion, because it is not one of the most obvious cases and it does not contain any copyright violations.

2) This newly created page has been subjected to “speedy deletion” through a tag placed by an editor citing Wikipedia speedy deletion criteria No. A10 (Wikipedia criteria No.A10 applies to any recently created article with no relevant page history that duplicates an existing English Wikipedia topic, and that does not expand upon, detail or improve information within any existing article(s) on the subject, and where the title is not a plausible redirect.). Wikipedia speedy deletion criteria itself states A10 rationale should only be used rarely even for duplicate articles. The A10 criteria for speedy deletion does not apply to this newly created page; because another editor confirmed the newly created page contain new material without duplicative content. The newly created page demonstrably provides expanded, detailed and improved information on the subject not found within any existing article(s).

3) Another violation is that the editor who initiated the speedy deletion redirected the newly created page title “Debate on the Hadith” to an existing page titled “Criticism of Hadith” which contains no “Debate” in its contents. Debate is part of the subject title of the newly created page which reflects its format for its encyclopaedic contents.

4) This newly created page is speedily deleted with no consensus for a speedy deletion as per Wikipedia criteria requirement for speedy deletion. The author of the newly created page “Debate on the Hadith” provided response in writing to the speedy deletion tag on the talk pages of the author and the editor who initiated the speedy deletion, but same is ignored by the editor. YdhaW (talk) 01:13, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the page was nominated for WP:CSD#A10 deletion but this was declined.[1] The nominator then declared they were performing a merge[2] but merely created a redirect while merging nothing. The page has not been deleted[3] but instead it has been "disappeared". I suggest it would be best to revert the creation of the redirect and discuss on the talk page. Thincat (talk) 11:46, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Banana (video gamer) – Speedy closed per WP:DRVPURPOSE. Prisencolin, please read the linked section which describes the purpose of Deletion Review. This is a forum to correct errors made by whoever closed the AfD discussion. In this case, as in the Anna Prosser case you proposed below, the closes are obviously correct, representing the unanimous consensus of the people who participated in the AfD. I understand that you may not agree with the outcome, but that's not a reason to bring a case to DRV. In addition, in this case in particular, the title is not protected, and the article history is still available, so any editor has the ability to restore the article. DRV mostly exists because people are asking for deleted articles to be undeleted, which is an action that requires an admin to perform. No such need exists here. I suggest starting a conversation on Talk:NewBee to see if you can build a consensus to restore the original content of Wang "Banana" Jiao. My guess, based on the AfD result, is that you will have an uphill battle there, but it is the proper way forward. Please do not be discouraged by this; we welcome any and all editors to participate in the DRV process, but you should invest the time to read the instructions, above, and better understand what DRV is all about. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:05, 19 December 2015 (UTC) – -- RoySmith (talk) 15:05, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Meets WP:GNG Prisencolin (talk) 00:41, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Could you give us what you think are the three best reliable sources for purposes of the GNG? Hobit (talk) 01:50, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- These links, as well as the WP:BIO criterion "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor", specifically for winning The International 2014--Prisencolin (talk) 05:42, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  - Bailey, Matthew 'Cyborgmatt'; Lee, Josh 'AutumnWindz' (March 9, 2014). "Jiao 'Banana' Wang joins the Newbee team". OnGamers. CBS Interactive. Retrieved April 28, 2015.
  - "香蕉Banana以转会形式正式加入Newbee战队". 17173.com. March 10, 2014. Retrieved December 18, 2015.
  - "韬光养晦只为TI 追忆王蛟Banana不平凡的职业路". 178.com. July 23, 2015. Retrieved December 18, 2015.

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