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Category:Roman Catholic bishops from Réunion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Bishops from Réunion and Category:French Roman Catholic bishops. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:39, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: redundant layer, overcategorized Mason (talk) 23:58, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(Oops, I meant to flip the direction of that merge) Mason (talk) 00:10, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kenyan mechanical engineers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) gobonobo + c 02:21, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I believe this was meant to be a category for women engineers. gobonobo + c 23:15, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
oppose. The kenyan women engineer category already exists. mechanical engineers is a useful category. Mason (talk) 00:11, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikicars project[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:38, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category that seems to exist primarily for one user's convenience (and I'm not even sure it's that convenient!) Pichpich (talk) 23:07, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1709 establishments in Afghanistan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. The only member page is List of heads of state of Afghanistan. – Fayenatic London 12:23, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Isolated cat. Only year cat in 18th century for Afghanistan. –Aidan721 (talk) 22:58, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jews in Ottoman Palestine[edit]

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Category:British people in Mandatory Palestine[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:British people in Mandatory Palestine. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:39, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 21:04, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Military doctors by country[edit]

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Epononymous categories[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 12:25, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:EPON and WP:SMALLCAT "Eponymous categories should not be created unless enough directly-related articles or sub-categories exist." User:Namiba 19:24, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Prater (Leopoldstadt, Vienna)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:25, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No need for disambiguation given that the corresponding article is at Prater. I guess this could be a speedy nomination but I also wonder whether the category is really needed. One of the articles (Trabrennbahn Krieau) is about a horse racing track that's adjacent to but not part of Prater. So that really leaves two articles beyond the main one, a relatively small category. Pichpich (talk) 19:07, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No objection to the rename from me. While I wrote that the race track is adjacent to the Prater, it's often described as being part of it. It's a bit confusing because the Prater has shrunk over time due to development. The land occupied by the race track used to be part of the Prater. I would suggest not removing that article from the category. Re: size of the category, English Wikipedia is just missing articles for a lot of subjects. See the German category: de:Kategorie:Wiener_Prater. andkore 23:08, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, let's keep the category. I still believe in the renaming. Pichpich (talk) 00:16, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support renaming. Mason (talk) 01:44, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Television series by Seven.One Studios[edit]

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Category:11th-century English farmers[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:40, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only remaning member of 11th-century isn't actually a farmer, but is a landowner: Eadric the Wild. These categories gave same situation as Danish farmers [1] Mason (talk) 18:40, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, the categories mostly contain topic articles, not related to a particular century. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ethnic Meos[edit]

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Category:People from Mewat[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:41, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: As per naming scheme in Category:Ethnic groups in India Gjs238 (talk) 17:29, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now. It seems to me that there could be people from Mewat (a region) who may not be Mewati (an ethnic group). What you're proposing with this nomination and the one just above is in essence to merge Category:Ethnic Meos and Category:People from Mewat but they currently don't intersect which seems like a bad sign. Pichpich (talk) 22:13, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, the category could be meaningful for biographies for people from Mewat before it lost its independence in 1527. However it is largely populated with people from the Mughal Empire. Currently, Mewat is not an administrative division of India. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:53, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The category for the ethnic group is discussed above. The scope of this category is unclear, as people will be better defined by the actual designation of the geographic location they come from. Place Clichy (talk) 15:28, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2023 events in Tunisia by month[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:41, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERCAT. Merging only where needed. Delete otherwise. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:31, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2023 in teqball[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:41, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Isolated cat. Unlikely to grow. Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:24, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Halls of residences in the University of Ghana[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge as per nom. @User:Namiba, could you create Category:University of Ghana buildings and structures and populate it? (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:32, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Over-categorization: 1-article category Gjs238 (talk) 10:43, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Category:University of Ghana buildings and structures. I count 5 buildings or structures in Category:University of Ghana.--User:Namiba 14:54, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with that. It would fit well into Category:Buildings and structures by university or college. With 6 articles it would hardly be the smallest category. Gjs238 (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Vice-chancellors of the University of Eswatini[edit]

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Category:Palm Sunday tornado outbreaks[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category seems entirely unnecessary. There are only three tornado outbreaks in this category, and all of them can be found just by searching for 'Palm Sunday tornado'. It makes as much sense as a category for tornadoes on Easter Day, or on Memorial Day, or any other random day. Colonies Chris (talk) 10:36, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:18th-century executions in India[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:47, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename and purge, most articles are executions by the Mughal Empire, the exceptions may be moved to Category:18th-century executions and Category:17th-century executions respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:39, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
copy of speedy discussion
  • Oppose these two, though after full discussion they may be converted to "by the Mughal Empire". Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison: pinging iniator of speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:47, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Even better! Mason (talk) 17:52, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cardinals of Latin America[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: split, this is a sibling of Category:European cardinals i.e. by continent, and the convention is to split the Americas by a North America and South America continent. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
copy of speedy discussion
  • Category:Cardinals of Latin America to Category:Cardinals from Latin America – C2C: makes it clearer that this is nationality (as opposed to countries) Mason (talk) 21:34, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Why not "Latin American Cardinals" since it's a subcat of "Latin American people" and all the subcats are XCountry Cardinals? Jahaza (talk) 18:46, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    meant "Latin American cardinals" of course. Jahaza (talk) 18:47, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    No particular reason (it was fewer characters to change.) Do you feel strongly, because I'm indifferent. Equally fine to change it to Latin American cardinals Mason (talk) 18:50, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Smasongarrison and Jahaza: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support split as nominated. Note that this is a container of national subcategories, and that such containers are better organized along a consistent set of continental divides, arbitrary as it is. The only defining factor for the individuals involved is their nationality, region/continental is just a matter of category organization. Place Clichy (talk) 11:29, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Support, per @Place Clichy Mason (talk) 18:17, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People executed by the Holy Roman Empire[edit]

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Category:Giants Live competitions[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:36, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category is empty and no longer needed. Brandon Downes (talk) 06:20, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Brandon Downes, next time, tag an empty category CSD C1. An empty category doesn't need a week-long discussion. Especially if you are going to empty the category first. It renders this discussion rather pointless. Liz Read! Talk! 01:11, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    My apologies, I couldn't find the way to tag it for speedy deletion so took this step. Will know for next time thank you. Brandon Downes (talk) 01:19, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Brandon Downes, discover Twinkle. It will make your editing on Wikipedia much, much easier. Liz Read! Talk! 01:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Liz Thank you for the recommendation I will go have a look. My apologies again. Brandon Downes (talk) 02:04, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Right-wing politicians in Israel[edit]

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Category:Right-wing politicians in Thailand[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Thai people by political orientation. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:50, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization, should be upmerged, as there is only one child category (Far-right politicians in Thailand) Mason (talk) 03:40, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chickasaw in the American Civil War[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Native Americans in the American Civil War and Category:Chickasaw Nation. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:51, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: smallcat, not clear if there iis potential for growth Mason (talk) 02:46, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Anti-Korean propaganda[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:41, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one entry currently (I did remove one because it was an unsourced claim). This user created the cat, but they're now blocked. They were also infamous for using categories to express political views. I think at present the category's not very useful; explicit anti-Korean sentiment in media in Japan is fairly rare in my experience, and I edit a lot on this topic. Also, the term "propaganda" I think should fall under MOS:LABEL; we'd need to see reliable third parties explicitly characterizing things as propaganda, but I almost never see that. toobigtokale (talk) 02:00, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as subjective, non-defining, and and obvious attempt at POV pushing. — SamX [talk · contribs] 04:12, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. In the only article in this category there is nothing to indicate that the article has anything to do with Anti-Korean propaganda, except the category. So the category does not seem to be useful except as a way of expressing disapproval in a hard-to-notice way; that is not something editors should be doing.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:33, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 01:20, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Sorry, I just absentmindedly emptied it; stumbled upon the last page in it while doing something else and removed it without thinking. I can undo if that's desired for neutrality, but otherwise think the other comments all still stand. toobigtokale (talk) 12:17, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Palaces in Mozambique[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:52, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary/over-categorization, 1-article category.

Category:Palaces in Africa contains only 8 articles, hardly in need of diffusion. Gjs238 (talk) 01:48, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:European expatriates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 12:30, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think this category's goal is to make the expatriate categories of the respective countries manageable. I think we should rename the category to reflect that. Mason (talk) 00:35, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Although as I look at the categories... maybe that's not the goal. 🤷 Mason (talk) 00:36, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alt Propose Propose deleting
  • Maybe the subcategories should be nominated for deletion. This is a very incomplete set and we do not have anything similar for other continents. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I support deletion of all these European expatriates in... categories. Expatriation is really a link between a departure country and a residence country, continents is not a useful notion for it. Also note that European is unfortunately often used as a proxy for race, which is not the topic; note for instance how there is no such category of European expatriates in a European country of residence. That's an non-useful incomplete set. Place Clichy (talk) 11:40, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I think you all make excellent points! I'd also support deleting the child categories. I'll update the nom as an alternative. Mason (talk) 17:57, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete per my above reasoning. Place Clichy (talk) 15:29, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all including Category:European expatriates. I don't think the added layer of categorization adds much value, and agree with Place Clichy's note that "European" is often intended to mean "white"... Pichpich (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • added the main category to the deletion. Forgetting it was an overcite on my part. Mason (talk) 01:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:40, 22 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all: this cat does not make any sense and it content is duplicated! FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:56, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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