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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. I see a consensus to Delete this article. As an editor argues, this might just be TOOSOON and at some point in the future, an article could be warranted given more reliable sourcing. Liz Read! Talk! 02:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zerry DL[edit]

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN, then fails WP:GNG. Article is almost entirely made from utterly unreliable blogs, some do no mention the subject at all. And being the brother of the notable Shallipopi doesn’t inherently makes him notable too. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 01:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: Even so, TurnTable charts is no longer regarded as a reliable chart. @T.C.G. [talk] 16:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Who told you TurnTable charts is no longer reliable. I think you are voting based on hate. Pls reconsider it. Thank You 2RDD (talk) 17:23, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Lol, to be clear, there's nothing to hate. I've created quite a bunch of music related articles and I have also cited Turntable charts on a draft which got declined, I had to add a billboard chart before it got accepted. I got feedback that TurnTable is not identified as reliable music chart here [1] which makes it unreliable till there's concensus. @T.C.G. [talk] 18:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay bro, that's means Zerry DL maybe deleted. Just hearing that turntable is unreliable thanks for the information. 2RDD (talk) 18:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Do you have any professional relationship with the artists, record labels, distributors on which you're making edits for? The presence of personal/professional relation is a cause for conflict of interest. A talent manager making edits on a subject they represent would be considered undisclosed paid editing unless they specifically disclose the company/person who is paying the editor, and whom the edit is made on behalf of. Graywalls (talk) 22:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The subject fails WP:GNG and has not received significant coverage in reliable sources. Majority of the sources cited in the article are press release write-up about the subject's musical releases. It is simply WP:TOOSOON for the subject to have a stand-alone article at this time. He is still an up-and-coming artist who hasn't made a name for himself just yet, and is simply known as being the younger brother of a notable artist. @TheChineseGroundnut: Just because the article you submitted to AFC was declined doesn't mean that Turntable isn't notable. You probably didn't include reliable sources discussing the album. Simply having an album or song chart doesn't mean that it is notable. An album or song still needs to be discussed in reliable sources to justify a separate article.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 23:10, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You didn't open the link I sent did you? Well, here it is [2]. @T.C.G. [talk] 23:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TheChineseGroundnut Just to be clear, TurnTable Charts is reliable and notable, I take them for that, and mostly review articles based on that. The AfC reviewer isn’t aware and only made assumptions that it isn’t regarded as a reliable chart. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:16, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Noted. Not everyone thinks the same tho. Some drafts could still get declined If it's cited with only turntable as chart, just like my previous experience. It probably still needs concensus. @T.C.G. [talk] 09:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Reliable sources can mean more than one thing. A court record or public agency press release saying John Smith from City of Nowhere plead guilty to assault is not a reliable source for anyone named John Smith, because it doesn't properly identify which John Smith it is. A local rag sheet which cites this source and says the owner of Smith Nursery John Smith from Nowhereville pled guilty to assault is a reliable source that someone named John Smith pled guilty and that it's the owner of that nursery in that town. This is reliable source for the claim of fact, because a secondary source (the rag sheet) interpreted the primary source (court records). However, reliably fact reporting is not a reliable indication of notability for him or his business. Graywalls (talk) 23:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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