Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stories from East High (book series)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result wasDelete while there is only a small group who have commented, those of the keep opinion are say the sourcing is not independent, notability is established through multiple independent sources. Gnangarra 13:29, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Stories from East High (book series)[edit]
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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stories from East High. Notability is not inherited. Will (talk) 02:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep novelization of a successful film with too much detail to merge. JJL 02:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Still, no independent sources. Amazon doesn't count, as anyone can get a book sold there (My ex-girlfriend's sister, for example, has a book for sale on Amazon. Doesn't mean that she should get an article). Even if High School Musical was seen by every man, woman and child on the planet, notability would still not be inherited. Will (talk) 17:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- But if you looked at the sources, you'd see that Amazon is the seller, not someone else. Since Amazon can only sell existing items (stupid to think otherwise), I'd say it's valid.Snoborder93 19:13, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- All Amazon needs is an ISBN to be able to sell a book. Having an ISBN does not grant instant notability (this is slightly devil's advocate, but the point still stands).
- But if you looked at the sources, you'd see that Amazon is the seller, not someone else. Since Amazon can only sell existing items (stupid to think otherwise), I'd say it's valid.Snoborder93 19:13, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Still, no independent sources. Amazon doesn't count, as anyone can get a book sold there (My ex-girlfriend's sister, for example, has a book for sale on Amazon. Doesn't mean that she should get an article). Even if High School Musical was seen by every man, woman and child on the planet, notability would still not be inherited. Will (talk) 17:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Will (talk) 01:03, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well this was a page that was deleted on account of not meeting the standards and being unencyclopedic. It has now been recreated, and, as much as you'd like to argue against it, there are trustful sources and the book series has earned fame in its own right despite being a spin-off of the film. There are articles and ads in magazines. But just in case this leaves doubts, I have added new sources for upcoming books in addition (not in replacement of) to Amazon.Snoborder93 00:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Independent sources, please. Realistically, at the most, this can be a subsection in High School Musical, any more is a fluffy plot summary. Will (talk) 00:30, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The High School Musical article is too long as it is and is constantly being cut down. That's how this article became an independent one. Once this is merged with High School Musical, more and more details will added by editors and eventually, it will wind back up in another article. And I'd just like to point out, I never said "independent sources".Snoborder93 01:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Independent sources, please. Realistically, at the most, this can be a subsection in High School Musical, any more is a fluffy plot summary. Will (talk) 00:30, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well this was a page that was deleted on account of not meeting the standards and being unencyclopedic. It has now been recreated, and, as much as you'd like to argue against it, there are trustful sources and the book series has earned fame in its own right despite being a spin-off of the film. There are articles and ads in magazines. But just in case this leaves doubts, I have added new sources for upcoming books in addition (not in replacement of) to Amazon.Snoborder93 00:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 18:32, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep it. It is very useful and allows readers to have more information than just the bare minimum. Snoborder93 20:36, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- "It is useful" is not a valid deletion criteria. Will (talk) 17:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think you mean "criterion" :) Nowayout203 22:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- "It is useful" is not a valid deletion criteria. Will (talk) 17:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Links to places that sell it, and the company that made it do not count towards notability. Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. Q T C 00:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The links do not go to the company that makes it, they go to the official site for the books, which, no duh, is under the company's control. Why wouldn't it count as notability?Snoborder93 21:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.