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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect→Lost Lake (a disambiguation page). During the course of the discussion Lost Lake (Canada) was moved to Lost Lake (Abbotsford). The original concern was around the title being misleading, giving inappropriate emphasis to a single Canadian lake. There appears to be little concern expressed below about the content of Lost Lake (Abbotsford). If there is a desire to delete Lost Lake (Canada) after its target is changed, please list at WP:RFD; if there is a desire to delete Lost Lake (Abbotsford), please renominate via WP:AFD (I'm closing this due to the discussion not focusing on the article content). User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lost Lake (Canada)[edit]

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Reason the page should be deleted Sp4rk3d 05:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This page should be deleted because the information is not correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sp4rk3d (talk • contribs) 23:03 (UTC) 15 June 2007

For everyone's convenience I have changed the redirect at the top (Lost Lake (Canada)) to the article for deletion. Tim Q. Wells 05:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note AfD was malformed; cleaned up. LaughingVulcan 05:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I replaced the article with a stub on another lake that is in Whistler, British Columbia. Tim Q. Wells 05:51, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral. There is more than one lake in BC alone called Lost Lake - there's one near Powell River, one near Whistler, one near Coquitlam, and one in the Cariboo. There are also Lost Lakes in Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec, the Northwest Territories (possibly three!) and Nunavut. I'm not sure what makes this one in Whistler more notable than the others, but Lost Lake (Canada) is a pretty bad name for just the one. --Charlene 06:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep Sp4rk3d has previously blanked this stub when it was originally titled Lost Lake (Sumas Mountain), saying that his brother wanted the article removed. Spurious and unfounded in my opinion. A_Kiwi (User:A_Kiwi)
  • Strong Keep Magioladitis 07:38, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • DELETE This page should be deleted because it is really a very unimportant lake, and if there are so many otehr Lost Lkaes in Canada, why should this one be here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.215.187 (talk • contribs)
  • Keep Useful disambiguation and lakes tend to have reliable sources containing information about them. Capitalistroadster 01:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Another editor has changed the link to a redirect to Lost Lake, and in fact the original AFD notice is on Lost Lake (Abbotsford). When an article is under AFD it must not be renamed or changed to a redirect until it is resolved. I have attempted to revert as much as possible. 23skidoo 01:08, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment 23skidoo is correct. The original AfD was tagged with Lost Lake (Canada), as was the malformed tag here. ANd the Lost Lake (Canada) now redirects to Lost Lake, a disambig page for Lost Lakes. I'm not sure if the right course of action is to simply fix the tags here and at Lost Lake (Abbotsford), as the user above did not do (nor should have started moving pages around,) or if the AfD here should be closed and reopened for Lost Lake (Abbotsford), or if this should be closed out with no prejudice towards somebody else nominating Lost Lake (Abbotsford). It wasn't that the disambig redirect was bad, per se, just causing a lot of confusion with this AfD. LaughingVulcan 03:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Speedy close. This AfD is a mess. Close it and start a new one for Lost Lake (Abbotsford) if that's the page you want to delete. —David Eppstein 05:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • How is it a mess? The article for deletion was moved. And why on earth would we start another one? Consensus seems to be clear and users I'm sure would not vote until they are certain of the article for deletion. The only delete vote was made by 207.216.215.187 and is almost certainly a meatpuppet of Sp4rk3d. Tim Q. Wells 05:41, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply to Mr. Wells. The reason it's a mess is because it still says at the top "Lost Lake (Canada)". So if I plug that into the Search box on the left instead of clicking the link, I get the disambig page. If I click it at the top, all of a sudden I'm looking at Lost Lake (Abbotsford.) Most simply, the article now being considered for deletion is not the article that this AfD log says it is. Also, at least one of the Keep votes above is very clearly speaking to the disambig page you created, while other Delete comments are talking about the Abottsford article. Editing the page to make it better during AfD is great. Moving pages and replacing the page with a redirect, etc. isn't cool, because a) it causes this type of confusion - what's the closing Admin supposed to read into this debate now that it's talking about at least two things? and b) There was no reason you couldn't have expressed the opinion "Move article to [[Lost Lake {Abbotsford)]] and Redirect to Lost Lake", or "Redirect to Lost Lake" if you wanted the original article gone. Still not saying you didn't have a good idea - I like the solution you came up with - but now the non-comment parts of this AfD are confusing. LaughingVulcan 12:35, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy close and Redirect Lost Lakes (Canada) to Lost Lakes (disambiguation). The Lakes Project naming convention is that the main redirect target the most notable lake of the same name. I don't see the evidence that this Abbotsford lake qualifies as the most notable lake of that name in Canada. Canuckle 18:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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