Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mexican voice actors

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep...this is the english *language* wikipedia... --Stephanie ^talk 12:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Mexican voice actors[edit]

I'm pretty sure this site is English Wikipedia, not Spanish Wikipedia, where this information is better suited. If we have lists like this for all languages, what's the point in having different language Wikipedias? To my knowledge, the video game and manga/anime Wikiprojects have agreed that articles should list the voice actors for English and the native language if it is not English. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 18:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I'm sorry, but I really don't see your reasoning here: "I'm pretty sure this site is English Wikipedia, not Spanish Wikipedia, where this information is better suited." Are you trying to say that the English-language Wikipedia should avoid any topics that do not pertain to the English-speaking countries? I thought we were trying to avoid just the opposite. Crystallina 19:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I agree! This deletion proposal was set up in order to wipe those Mexicans out of our heads! Plus, I speak fluent Spanish, so I'm highly offended by the deletion proposal! --Ryanasaurus0077 19:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- And now, my comment - I think I smell traces of Tokugawa Iemitsu. It seems like NeoChaosX is living up to his name: he's set this up to cause chaos in the Wikipedia community, just to annoy the living crap out of Spanish-speakers who use the English Wikipedia, myself included! He's trying to scare Spanish-speakers on this Wikipedia, and he's definitely trying to spark hatred against the Spanish Wikipedia! I will not stand for this any longer! If this keeps up, I'm going to have to report him on the grounds of prejudice! In fact, I can only hope the admins order him to pack his bags for this fiasco! --Ryanasaurus0077 12:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Let me comment again. When I said I agreed, I meant with Crystallina! This deletion proposal is not only a sheer act of prejudice and an attempt to imitate Iemitsu, but also systemic bias, which is not recommended on the Wikipedia. Propose deletion of one more Mexico-related article, NeoChaosX, and I'll have you reported for violation of deletion policy! --Ryanasaurus0077 12:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Move, it is an interesting article, but it should be change to List of Spanish voice actors, as the birthplace of the actor shouldn't matter. Clerks. 19:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, I might be wrong. For the dub of the Simpsons they had a Spanish version and a Latin American version, thus maybe the move should be to List of Latin American voice actors.Clerks. 19:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete if this list stays, the precedent for creating lists similar to this could encourage the opening to floodgates for articles such as List of Canadian Voice Actors, or any other country. BH (T|C) 02:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Allow me to comment on your blatant and open support of NeoChaosX's systemic bias, Black Harry. If I report NeoChaosX when he tries to get one more page deleted, you're going down too. Not to scare you, just a warning that you're siding with someone who tried to attempt systemic bias. --Ryanasaurus0077 12:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm going down for what? Expressing my mind in a discussion. Your extortive blackmailing may work against other editors, but not me. Further more, if you ever threaten to take me down again, I will report your and see to it that you are blocked for harassing me and trying to intimidate me into voting keep on article which I find pointless.BH (T|C) 18:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - I don't think my twin brother was harassing you (I've already severely disciplined him for the incident, believing he had a big hangover at the time; I say he was delirious). Sorry I couldn't keep him under control, he was out of my sight again (why can't I keep up with how much aspirin he takes!?); I should probably try to give him some more medication so he doesn't go violently delirious again. --Ryanasaurus007 22:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Here's my next comment - We don't want to discourage anyone from creating an article devoted to the voice actors who were born in (or currently reside in) our neighbor to the north. It'd be like blaming Canada for WP's problems if we deleted this page, only this time we'd be blaming Mexico! BTW, to blame Canada means to target an unreasonable scapegoat (i.e. Canada or Mexico). --Ryanasaurus0077 21:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Black Harry. Political correctness should not be the driving force for keeping anything on wikipedia. Sleep On It 12:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Time to comment on Sleep On It's vote. I voted "keep" for this article based on the fact that NeoChaosX, or should I say Tokugawa Iemitsu, is deliberately promoting systemic bias. Now, I'm actively speaking out against this political incorrectness he's been showing... but unfortunately I can't warn you about the consequences since my twin brother (that's Ryanasaurus007 for you) put me on probation for a few days, part of the terms being that I can edit Wikipedia, but I can't drink beer. But I can tell you that what he's doing makes me want to report him if I see this page go under. Don't worry, you'll be safe. But I can't guarantee his Hans Gruber-like behavior is going to let him get away with being politically incorrect and trying to make the entire WP politically incorrect in doing so. I don't like anarchy or systemic bias, and neither does WP! --Ryanasaurus0077 21:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To the Closing Admin please review the thread on WP:ANI concerning the two Ryanasaurus users, before closing this debate. The thread is viewable here. BH (T|C) 23:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm not sure the deletion reason is all that applicable, as while this is the English Wikipedia, that refers only to the language of this Wikipedia. Articles about foreign language media is perfectly fine, so long as the article itself is in English. That said, I am not at all certain that this is a notable intersection. At any rate, I find I can't vote either way, though I was tempted to vote delete exclusively on the basis of the ridiculous sockpuppetry by the two Ryans. Resolute 00:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: If this is going to be deleted, it should be deleted on cruft or indiscriminate information grounds, but not to do with nationality or race. There is List of Spaniards, for example. But I don't think it's anywhere near cruft nor is it indiscriminate information. So I am bordering on Speedy Keep rather than Keep. x42bn6 Talk Mess 01:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Looks notable like other similar lists from countries that had several notable voice actors. --JForget 00:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{He's trying to scare Spanish-speakers on this Wikipedia, and he's definitely trying to spark hatred against the Spanish Wikipedia! I will not stand for this any longer! If this keeps up, I'm going to have to report him on the grounds of prejudice! In fact, I can only hope the admins order him to pack his bags for this fiasco! --Ryanasaurus0077 12:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

- - Let me comment again. When I said I agreed, I meant with Crystallina! This deletion proposal is not only a sheer act of prejudice and an attempt to imitate Iemitsu, but also systemic bias, which is not recommended on the Wikipedia. Propose deletion of one more Mexico-related article, NeoChaosX, and I'll have you reported for violation of deletion policy! --Ryanasaurus0077 12:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Move, it is an interesting article, but it should be change to List of Spanish voice actors, as the birthplace of the actor shouldn't matter. Clerks. 19:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, I might be wrong. For the dub of the Simpsons they had a Spanish version and a Latin American version, thus maybe the move should be to List of Latin American voice actors.Clerks. 19:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete if this list stays, the precedent for creating lists similar to this could encourage the opening to floodgates for articles such as List of Canadian Voice Actors, or any other country. BH (T|C) 02:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Allow me to comment on your blatant and open support of NeoChaosX's systemic bias, Black Harry. If I report NeoChaosX when he tries to get one more page deleted, you're going down too. Not to scare you, just a warning that you're siding with someone who tried to attempt systemic bias. --Ryanasaurus0077 12:27, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm going down for what? Expressing my mind in a discussion. Your extortive blackmailing may work against other editors, but not me. Further more, if you ever threaten to take me down again, I will report your and see to it that you are blocked for harassing me and trying to intimidate me into voting keep on article which I find pointless.BH (T|C) 18:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    - I don't think my twin brother was harassing you (I've already severely disciplined him for the incident, believing he had a big hangover at the time; I say he was delirious). Sorry I couldn't keep him under control, he was out of my sight again (why can't I keep up with how much aspirin he takes!?); I should probably try to give him some more medication so he doesn't go violently delirious again. --Ryanasaurus007 22:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  - Here's my next comment - We don't want to discourage anyone from creating an article devoted to the voice actors who were born in (or currently reside in) our neighbor to the north. It'd be like blaming Canada for WP's problems if we deleted this page, only this time we'd be blaming Mexico! BTW, to blame Canada means to target an unreasonable scapegoat (i.e. Canada or Mexico). --Ryanasaurus0077 21:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Black Harry. Political correctness should not be the driving force for keeping anything on wikipedia. Sleep On It 12:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Time to comment on Sleep On It's vote. I voted "keep" for this article based on the fact that NeoChaosX, or should I say Tokugawa Iemitsu, is deliberately promoting systemic bias. Now, I'm actively speaking out against this political incorrectness he's been showing... but unfortunately I can't warn you about the consequences since my twin brother (that's Ryanasaurus007 for you) put me on probation for a few days, part of the terms being that I can edit Wikipedia, but I can't drink beer. But I can tell you that what he's doing makes me want to report him if I see this page go under. Don't worry, you'll be safe. But I can't guarantee his Hans Gruber-like behavior is going to let him get away with being politically incorrect and trying to make the entire WP politically incorrect in doing so. I don't like anarchy or systemic bias, and neither does WP! --Ryanasaurus0077 21:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To the Closing Admin please review the thread on WP:ANI concerning the two Ryanasaurus users, before closing this debate. The thread is viewable here. BH (T|C) 23:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm not sure the deletion reason is all that applicable, as while this is the English Wikipedia, that refers only to the language of this Wikipedia. Articles about foreign language media is perfectly fine, so long as the article itself is in English. That said, I am not at all certain that this is a notable intersection. At any rate, I find I can't vote either way, though I was tempted to vote delete exclusively on the basis of the ridiculous sockpuppetry by the two Ryans. Resolute 00:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: If this is going to be deleted, it should be deleted on cruft or indiscriminate information grounds, but not to do with nationality or race. There is List of Spaniards, for example. But I don't think it's anywhere near cruft nor is it indiscriminate information. So I am bordering on Speedy Keep rather than Keep. x42bn6 Talk Mess 01:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Looks notable like other similar lists from countries that had several notable voice actors. --JForget 00:35, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.