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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Mailer Diablo 00:30, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of Half-Life 2 mods[edit]

Violates WP:NOT since it is a list. Moreover, it is, in my opinion, gamecruft. --M@thwiz2020 02:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, nothing in WP:NOT says "delete all lists", last time I looked. Probably best to split into separate articles for each mod. Kappa 02:19, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - while NOT doesn't say to delete them, it still says the shouldn't exist. And if they shouldn't exist, you either have to delete, merge, or redirect. --M@thwiz2020 02:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment WP:NOT does not say that lists should not exist, it says that certain types of lists should not exist. This is not one of those types. Dsmdgold 15:16, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. There are plenty of perfectly good lists on Wikipedia - see List of topic lists. Besides which Half-Life 2 is definitely a significant game, in large part because of its moddability (therefore not really gamecruft), and a couple of other games have similar lists (List of Battlefield 1942 mods, List of Battlefield Vietnam mods, List of Total Annihilation mods). If you want to be consistent, go ahead and list those too. Hairy Dude 02:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Nothing in WP:NOT explicitly rejects lists, or even says that they shouldn't exist, it seems to me. The closest thing is the recommendation against internet directories, but I think this serves a legitimate purpose. WoodenTaco 02:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Counter Strike was a mod that changed the entire gaming culture, mods like this have significant cultural change, thus I believe WP should keep this list to show the entire world the changing of society and such, just like WP has an article on Ak 47. Shahathens 02:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, if only to have a place to put the text from the mods that don't deserve their own articles. -- Thesquire (talk - contribs) 03:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep - This thing was linked from the front page of STEAM for chrissakes. This is a highly useful and notable resource. Cyde Weys 05:08, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Hairy Dude. Also see Category:Computer game mods. --Alan Au 05:16, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep A very useful and helpful resource. Good for disambiguation among mods and a good reflection of the changing game culture. Half-Life 2 has so great an impact on gaming culture that it would be ridiculous to delete this article.--Xzilenifo 06:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Half-Life 2 is very notable, not least because it can be modified. However, I doubt any of these is the next Counter-Strike, so very few, if any, should have their own article, so let's not go there. I do, however, think that unreleased mods should not be listed. Once they're out they can be added. —Wrathchild (talk) 13:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I know this may be a topic for the talk page rather than here, but some of the mods are eminently notable. Black Mesa: Source, for instance, has been ranked the #1 unreleased mod of 2005 for any game on any system. Now I will agree with you that they don't deserve their own articles until they are released. --Cyde Weys 16:35, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Notable, verifiable, and quite useful. I was going to vote merge until I saw how extensive it is. -- Plutor 14:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Abstain My personal opinion is that this level of detail belongs on a fan site but not here. However, I know concensus when I see it so I'll keep my mouth shut :) --kingboyk 03:08, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Since there is an article titled "List of Half-Life Mods," and that article has been kept. Would it not make since to keep the "List of Half-Life 2 mods?"---Queasy1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.8.122.166 (talk • contribs) 22:29, February 3, 2006
  • Keep This is a useful article of information and should be kept for user reference. -Dave — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.244.2.94 (talk • contribs) 08:57, February 6, 2006
  • Keep For the moment there aren't that many mods and I don't think it should be deleted. Perhaps the descriptions need to be removed when the number of mods begin to grow (and then the mods that deserve their own articles should get one). And I think that unreleased mods shouldn't be there (neither should they have own articles before release). -- ReCover 19:32, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This list is one of the most thorough and comprehensive of all HL2 mods, and its brevity makes it more useful when compared to the lists and catalogues offered by fansites. Were it not for this list, I would not know of half of them. ViceroyInterus 20:20, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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