Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kirby: Fright to the Finish!!

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The result was redirect to Kirby: Right Back at Ya!#DVD. L Faraone 23:52, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Kirby: Fright to the Finish!![edit]

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This article covers a non-notable direct-to-video TV film based on a notable 4kids television show, which is based on a popular video game franchise. I was out of luck that I could make any sort of benefit that the amount of notability of this movie complies with what Wikipedia strives for. Doing a Google News archive search only found sources announcing the release of the film, and there were no other sources anywhere I could find that were critical reviews, interviews with people who made and talk about the film, or any other in-depth info about the topic.

As it looks as of this time, the articles appears to read like promotionalism, with basically entirely unsourced info and original research about the film's references and releases, and thats really about it. Now I'm not suggesting to get rid of this article due to violating WP:NOTPROMOTION, and, afterall, both the deletion discussions for main show article and the list of episodes aired from the show were snow keeped, and thats because Afds are not cleanup tags. However, I am requesting a delete due to no independent or secondary in-depth sources either included here or outside of Wikipedia that would establish notability. ~~And Hello, Zanimum! Doesn't your brain understand that Wikipedia is not a sales catalog nor adversting?!!!!!~~ Please ignore this argument. The article was created back in 2005, and I apologize to the creator if this was any sort of personal attack. 和DITOR E tails 02:28, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unless I'm missing something here, there is no reason for this article to exist, because Notability is not inherited and all articles should meet WP:GNG no matter what. EDITOR Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 02:40, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ Article definitely needs lots of work, but it would be notable just as a re-edited compilation film of a portion of the series and can easily be fixed with some good sourcing and such. However, the attack on the creating editor who posted this article in 2005? That needs to be pulled back immediately. Attacking someone based on an article they created eight years ago is uncalled for, and we had looser standards back then; what you as the nominator wrote is incredibly uncalled for and your sarcasm reads as a personal attack. Otherwise, this article is easily rescuable (in fact before this edit added a textwall plot summary it was very light, so maybe work from that one instead of how it is as-is); at worst, this should be preserved as a redirect to List of Kirby: Right Back at Ya! episodes if it can't be fixed. Nate • (chatter) 06:42, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Response from nominator. I am not trying to suggest that the article should be deleted because it is messy. You should be concerning the notability of the topic, and not whether it needs cleanup. Sorry if the argument i made read like a personal attack, but I would also suggest to the creator that all articles should comply with WP:GNG, and that notability is not inherited. Another thing: I don't think the article "can easily be fixed with some good sourcing and such," because, well, no other "good sources" in-depth about the subject exists. If you suggest to clean up the article, feel free to go ahead and do so. Thank you for reading this response. EDITOR Eat ma talk page up, scotty! 13:47, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The editor you singled out edited the article once in 2005 with a basic plot summary, nothing else. Others added on more information. Again, I ask you pull back the attack because none of the offending content was the originating editor's fault. Nate • (chatter) 18:44, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Response from nominator. I never said it was his fault for putting in the original research and unsourced content. Please stop thinking like that. I'm trying to suggest that he should look for in-depth, reliable secondary sources before he creates an article on the subject. 和DITOR E tails 19:02, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This is my final response because this seems fruitless; the editor made one edit to the article ten years ago. The editor is a sysop now and doesn't need you to remind them of policy now because they're well-trusted in the community at this point, and they probably completely forgot they created this article in the first place. There are article edits I'm not proud I made back in 2005, but it's in the past and under different rules; the issue is with the others who added on since then, not Zanimum. Retract the attack, please. In the meantime, I am changing my rationale to a redirect to Kirby:_Right_Back_at_Ya!#DVD per TG79 below, a more appropriate action as a DVD-only film. Nate • (chatter) 02:14, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Kirby:_Right_Back_at_Ya!#DVD. I do have to echo that criticizing another editor in this manner isn't really productive and is fairly WP:BITE-y. In any case, the problem here is that this lacks coverage in reliable sources to show that this particular compilation set (and that's ultimately what this is) has individual notability outside of its overall series. I honestly can't find anything other than primary/PR sources, merchant/junk hits, and mention in sites that can't be used as any type of source. I've added a bit of information at the DVD section of the overall K:RBaY article for the DVD section, which I recommend redirecting it to. It could redirect to the list of episodes, but the DVD section in the main article would probably make more sense since it was a DVD only release. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:24, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge - As a OVA "feature length film" whose content comprises of 5 essentially unaltered episodes, the content is not particularly different nor meets N or GNG in this particular case. Of the few sources that exist, our best might just be Amazon on the movie details.[1] ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:26, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Kirby: Right Back at Ya!#DVD where we already have content on this compilation. As it IS a compilation of already existing separate works rather than an original video animation, I should think this makes more sense. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 06:44, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Kirby: Right Back at Ya!#DVD, already content there no need to add more (more so if it is unsourced) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:04, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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