Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jennifer Wilson (reality show contestant)

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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 01:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jennifer Wilson (reality show contestant)[edit]

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A reality show contestant winner is not independently notable. I'd support a redirect to the show (or the season, although it's unclear if the season itself is notable) but I wanted to give the creator a chance to weigh in. Shadowjams (talk) 03:05, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Before saying this, let me preface that I do understand WP:WAX, but being in multiple reality shows and starring in the Bachelor alone apparently makes Jake Pavelka notable. Actually winning the reality show would seem to be in the same league as being an eliminated contestant and being the bachelor himself.--Jorfer (talk) 04:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think getting the subsequent show would be more important than the winning, but even with being the target of a reality show, absent coverage that comes from outside of that show, I don't think just being on a reality show, even prominently, is enough. Shadowjams (talk) 07:55, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the Dancing with the Stars appearance for Jake Pavelka indicates that simply being the Bachelor seems to makes him at least a minor celebrity. Let me say that The Bachelor is a longer time frame show. It is not like Fear Factor used to be where contestants won that show and were not seen in later episodes. Winning The Bachelor means several weeks of exposure on national television. As far as exposure, the winner of the show has a lesser but still significant amount of exposure than The Bachelor himself. If Wikipedia was paper, I would say not notable enough for an individual article, but since it is not, I feel it meets the threshold. Lorenzo Borghese, the person she was suppose to marry but didn't, has established notability, so it would seem that the association would make Wilson notable enough for inclusion. Actually, most of the bachelor's have their own article if you look at The Bachelor (TV series), because the show targets important individuals.--Jorfer (talk) 02:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per Shadowjams, but would consider a redirect to the show's WP page if she is mentioned there. Jusdafax 08:20, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete may pass GNG, but fails WP:ENT. A reality show, as far as I'm concerned is either a 1E, or the beginning of an acting career that isn't sufficient to show enduring notability per our SNGs on the topics. Jclemens (talk) 06:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the entertainer criteria is really intended for reality show contestants. It seems aimed more at career entertainers including the "television personality" part. Even given this, though, considering her simply as one time fiancee of Lorenzo Borghese would seem to fall under WP:ANYBIO and may be sufficient to pass the notability threshold.--Jorfer (talk) 21:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.