Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Identical case

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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:31, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Identical case[edit]

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Unsourced since its creation in late August 2014, although mentioned in the Manchu language article as part of its system; original author, Alumnum (talk · contribs), resurfaced as Munmula (talk · contribs) five years later. Outside WP and mirrors, preliminary searches across regular Google, GBooks, and GScholar--as well as JSTOR and Open Library--yield a host of tangential results at best. Looks like a daunting job for someone with a university library account or something.

Cf. the similarly named equative case, but I'm not having any better luck with references to any use in Manchu.

Beyond its appearance in my conlang project, I'm afraid that's a goner wiki-wise. (Pity I had to say that as a conlang creator...) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 11:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unless...we look up this clue from Manchu language#Less used cases hard enough (and even that's unsourced as well):

identical — used to indicate that something is the same as something else. Suffix -ali/-eli/-oli (apparently derived from the word adali, meaning "same")

--Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 11:39, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Almost forgot about @Munmula: Got any time to provide whatever source(s) you saw this term in? --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 11:42, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language and China. Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 11:27, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it should go. I check through a few Manchu grammars and saw no cases listed other than the basic structural cases. Biktor627 (talk) 03:18, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 16:01, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per above; it seems we have no reliable sources about this at all. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 09:42, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.