Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Icarus (Planet of the Apes)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Planet of the Apes (franchise). Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:55, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Icarus (Planet of the Apes)[edit]

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Barely-referenced article about the non-canonical name of a prop from Planet of the Apes (1968 film). Descriptions list "appearances" of the ship and are almost entirely unsourced, mostly describing plot elements of the films with WP:OR and speculation. Sottolacqua (talk) 15:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:05, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:05, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment as written, as "Icarus" is described as a made-up fan name for an un-named fictional spacecraft, and the article is essentially unsourced plot recaps. So my worry is per WP:NOTMADEUP. HOWEVER the name and its application in Planet of the Ape has been picked up and searchable in multiple sources,[1][2] so a rewrite or a new article is quite possible. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:03, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment—Still, the overall topic of this article is about a spaceship that is merely a prop and is not a large plot element in the film series. It's a vehicle that appears for at most a minute in each of the films referenced. This article subject is not on the level of Starship Enterprise, which plays a major role in the Star Trek universe of fiction. Sottolacqua (talk) 01:16, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yup... I'm not at all arguing that the current topic is notable as presented, nor that it has the same notability as do theatrical devices like Starship Enterprise or Millenium Falcon... only that available sources are indicative that it might merit inclusion somewhere in context. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 02:18, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Planet of the Apes (franchise) without the plot details. Just indicate in which media the spacecraft appeared, and reference that it was called the Icarus by fans. This can be used as a citation for that. Shouldn't be more than 3-4 sentences at the franchise article, IMO. Erik (talk | contribs) 15:15, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One reason this page exists - a number of POTA enthusiasts are trying to find the location of the original POTA spaceship. This wikipedia page gives a central point of reference for this endeavor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.2.96.167 (talk) 14:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment—Wikipedia is not a fansite nor is it a meeting point for film enthusiasts on a scavenger hunt for props. Sottolacqua (talk) 15:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/Redirect per Eric's comments. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:22, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.