Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hein Zeyar Lin (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete‎. Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 10:46, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hein Zeyar Lin[edit]

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Contested draftification. While language is an issue for accessing sources, doesn't appear factors changed w/r/t notability since the prior AfD and no case appears made that it has. Star Mississippi 15:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Myanmar. Star Mississippi 15:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions.CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 15:42, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Due to the article being moved from draftspace without the proper submission process. Svartner (talk) 17:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. @Vilnae867: How did you miss the fact that Hein Zeyar Lin has scored at least one international goal for Myanmar (against Macau) in October 2023? I have now added it to the article, but the fact that you missed this tells me that this article is not ready for mainspace and needs more work. We need to be especially careful not to make big mistakes like this when we are publishing information about living people, per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Please don't move articles from draft into mainspace before they are ready, and please make sure they have enough references to pass Wikipedia's notability guidelines per Wikipedia:General notability guidelines or Wikipedia:Notability (people). Otherwise these drafts keep ending up in these deletion discussions, which is also not very good for the player's reputation, because even if the article is deleted, this discussion will live "forever" on the Internet, associated with this player's name. Please do proper research; it is simply not enough to try to build articles from scoresheets that aren't telling the whole story. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:07, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment 20 international caps, normally you get quite a bit of information for these, but there maybe a language barrier for the English wikipedia, this might be a Myanmar wikipedia article only. I am on the fence. Govvy (talk) 11:02, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Govvy Agree. At this point I would support re-draftification to allow additional sources to be found, but then I think we would need @Vilnae867 to agree not to keep trying push the draft into mainspace prematurely. It is a waste of everyone's time. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:45, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and SALT - (still) no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment His signing to a two year contract to Yangon United just made the news. It's confusing because the report says he played for Myawady last year, yet he shows up in this 2023 Yangon United box score, and is listed on the final 2023 Yangon United team roster. No vote since WP:NSPORTS is not my area of expertise. STEMinfo (talk) 22:23, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy @GiantSnowman:. STEMinfo (talk) 22:25, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - transfer news is held to be WP:ROUTINE. Giant Snowman 22:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The article gets his international caps wrong – twice. First, the number is below 20. Second, the article claims that "His first international match was in October 2023 during the preliminary round of World Cup qualification against the Macau" which is also wrong. His first international match was in September 2021 against Hong Kong and he has 12 caps. [1] Geschichte (talk) 19:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: BLP, Fails GNG and NBIO. Sources in article and BEFORE found nothing with WP:SIGCOV from WP:IS WP:RS addressing the subject directly and indepth. BLPs require strong sourcing. // Timothy :: talk 07:14, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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