Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ellene

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ellene[edit]

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I simply cannot find any coverage about this language; in fact, I have no idea if the language itself existed or is a matter of fiction and a plot point of a book. The book mentioned in the article does not have a Wikipedia article, and searches for either the book or its author (who also does not have a Wikipedia article) result only in one profile in a Brazilian website. I have a feeling that the book mentioned might be self-published as a search for the ISBN number mentioned in the article came up empty. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:29, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:30, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:30, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Brazil-related deletion discussions. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:30, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This is either a hoax or so garbled as to make it impossible to verify anything. I also came up blank in the first five links for the ISBN from the book sources special page. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 17:12, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I found a Ricardo Rangel (no s) – from Mozambique, not Brazil, on photography, not language – but no trace of the book cited. I can't find that ISBN. In fact, I can't find any book in Portuguese or English about Allane or Ellene language or mythology. Cnilep (talk) 23:31, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Casa Nova exists, but I did not find any village called Villandela. I found the book in a few websites, such as this, this and this, and Google translations of those webpages look like fiction. Gulumeemee (talk) 04:11, 2 December 2016 (UTC); edited 04:16, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: It took me a while, but I think I figured out what's going on here. It looks like the name of this language was taken from the word "aliens", which makes sense once you look at the way this has been spelled in the article: Ellene, Ellena, Allane. According to this, there's a religion called "Allane", which is a UFO worshipping religion. The name Allane is also applied to the language and the people themselves. So in other words the people are called "Aliens", their language is "Alien language" and the religion is "Alien-ism". There's already an article on UFO religion, which covers the concept of alien worship. (It wouldn't be a bad idea to create a redirect for alien worship to that article, offhand.)

That aside, there's absolutely nothing to back up the idea that this particular brand of alien worship, its language, or anything else associated with it is particularly noteworthy. Considering that pretty much the only person who has talked about this is the author of the book, we could probably say that this is something that he came up with one day on his own since all we have is a random guy who put out a self-published book that claims that there's a language or dialect called "Allane", among other things. Even if he didn't make it up, there's just nothing out there to show notability in the slightest.

What does this mean? Ultimately this means that this is a pretty non-notable topic and not anything that would merit an article on Wikipedia. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 09:43, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think that bit of excellent detective work puts the case for deletion beyond doubt. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 18:52, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.