Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Hogwarts

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The result of the debate was No Consensus (6K to 10D). Redwolf24 (talk) 03:58, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Battle of Hogwarts

Lengthy article about the climax of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, which should just be merged with that article. Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 08:00, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

• Might want to mention that some time ago I closed a debate on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/The Battle of Hogwarts as a "delete". Since the article being discussed now is five times longer than the one I deleted, I think it should not count as a speedy-deletable recreation. No vote. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:11, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as per nominator. Isn't there a Potter wiki for this stuff? --Lomedae 10:04, August 30, 2005 (UTC)
  • We have the Muggles' Guide to Harry Potter for detailed analyses of the stories. Editors are encouraged to contribute. Uncle G 16:10:35, 2005-08-30 (UTC)
• Delete Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince covers this pretty well. Besides I've never really heard it called that. Cmouse 13:50, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, fancruft title for the climax of HP&THBP. Already covered in that article.Gateman1997 17:05, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Well written summation of the battle in the latest book--Machtzu 23:07, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, or possibly quasi-transwikify to the Harry Potter Wiki. I know it's not technically a "transwiki", but it would be (at least slightly) more appreciated there. Although nobody ever called it the "Battle of Hogwarts" in the books… Hermione1980 23:13, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
• No vote (delete) Ashibaka (tock) 00:58, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, non-canonical name. -Sean Curtin 01:37, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
• I'm already serving 10 years in Azkaban for casting an unforgivable vote the last time this came up, but here we go again Avra Deleta! For same reasons given last time. Sabine's Sunbird 01:39, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• I'll smuggle in a file hidden in a cake for you. Meantime, Delete this Potter-cruft. --Calton | Talk 02:19, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
  • A wand might be more useful —Wahoofive (talk) 06:02, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• Kill it with fire →Raul654 17:51, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
• Comment - if content from the article is merged back into "Half-Blood Prince" then this must be kept. Merge does not require admin intervention, and so, does not need a VfD vote. Delete should only be an option if this material does nto belong in Wikipedia (ie, if the "Battle of Hogwarst" material should not be in the H-B Prince article. Guettarda 17:59, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Fanfiction. --Carnildo 22:52, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Actually, this is canon. --Zetawoof 02:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Wikipedia is not paper. There is also precedent: See Battle of Yavin and Battle of Hoth and Battle of Endor as references as well as Battle of Wolf 359. -SocratesJedi | Talk 03:54, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. What he said. Plus there is no canonical name and this is the one in common use, battle is one of the pivotal events of series, if Battle of the Windmill has thrived there's little reason to keep this out, Wikipedia's Potter coverage is extensive and I for one would like it to stay that way. Yeah, I'm biased. --Kizor 12:50, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep: Too long to be merged into another article. —MESSEDROCKER (talk) 02:45, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Delete: If this article stays, then the precedent will allow articles for every minor event in the series. This section of the book was only about 30 pages long, right? Brendan OShea 06:03, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete; merge with the article for the book. Although there are articles for other fictional battles, that's no reason that this should belong too. Whether it's kept or not, the article needs a major trim; as it stands, it's much longer than it needs to be. --Zetawoof 02:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. It is the climax of the book, a matter of great interest to readers. Pointless merging it with the article on the book as a whole, as this description is already much longer than the description there for the entire book. It could not sensibly be merged without greatly extending the rest of the article on 'half blood prince'. Keeping it separate is consistent with the way topics have been 'farmed out' rather than having everything on that page. It is relevant to quite a few other pages. It belongs here as part of the set of articles on HP, not dumped on Wikibooks muggles guide (which is just disorganised stuff previously dumped from here for no very good reason.) Sandpiper 02:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Other major fictional battles have articles, and no one's given a reason why this one should be treated differently. It's a major turning point in the series, and would not set the precedent for articles on "every minor event", as one voter put it. --Icarus 22:39, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. This is a major point in the book. But it should be discussed in the article for the book. Gamaliel 22:40, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
  • The article on HBP would grow way too big if we merged this lengthy article into an already-large article. —MESSEDROCKER (talk) 03:27, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
    • Then you should trim the article. You don't need to recount every little thing in the entire book. Gamaliel 03:46, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Per SocratesJedi and Icarus--inks 22:43, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
• I will verge on the inclusionist side and say Keep, for now. Andre (talk) 03:57, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

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