Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A list of artificial intelligence films

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The result was keep. postdlf (talk) 15:04, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A list of artificial intelligence films[edit]

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The list would be far to large for Wikipedia to conceivably list them all. Seems like a case of WP:LISTCRUFT and Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information Winner 42 Talk to me! 15:46, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's already the Artificial intelligence in fiction article and it's not big at all. There aren't that many AI films actually. It would be nice to have a plain list of them and in an easily digestible form. Artem-S-Tashkinov (talk) 18:41, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Yes, we've already got artificial intelligence in fiction, which is a mostly unsourced example farm. I've been meaning to clean up that article for some time now, but it's not work that I really enjoy. Anyway, I'm not quite sure why we need two articles about AI in pop culture. But I guess a case could be made for it, such as [1], [2], [3], [4]. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. I'm sorry, ~~Dave~~ Winner 42. I'm afraid I can't let you do that. There are a manageable number of AI films, e.g. 2001: A Space Odyssey, Demon Seed, Colossus: the Forbin Project, all the Terminator movies, etc. Adding these to Artificial intelligence in fiction would make it too long. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:47, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Listcruft; Category:Films about artificial intelligence is sufficient —Мандичка^YO 😜 01:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lists and categories can co-exist, as has been demonstrated numerous times, and is not sufficient reason for deletion. In fact, the existence of the category supports keeping the list. Also, Time magazine article: "Seven A.I. Movies That Are Better Than Transcendence". Clarityfiend (talk) 02:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I support delete per Listcruft. I simply noted this was already a category, so I'm not crying too much over its deletion. Also the Time magazine article doesn't support this list existing. Churning out lists is common thanks to Buzzfeed and people's short attention span. Here's a fully useless list from Time - Top 10 Things That Broke the Internet.

The Time article demonstrates, along with the other lists, that the media do compile lists of these films. I've also added additional info that don't come up in the category (pro-list argument #1). Actually, this is a more-to-the-point Time list. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:17, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
01110100101100010101110011... (translation: It should be retitled List of films involving artificial intelligence). Clarityfiend (talk) 02:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Simply compiling these lists is not indicative of any kind of notability. As I pointed out, it's popular to compile lists aka listicles (easy content with no real effort). —Мандичка^YO 😜 03:42, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 03:35, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I agree with Clarityfiend, and would go further to say that there are no encyclopedic, (especially open encyclopedic) lists of this variety suitable for cataloguing artificial intelligences in film. As far as list-based articles go, this one goes several steps further by conveniently and clearly listing other relevant film and topic metadata that does not fit into other lists. --MahmoudHashemi (talk) 07:34, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes WP:LISTN as noted above. WP:CLN and WP:NOTPAPER tell us that it's fine to have lists of this sort. WP:LISTCRUFT is an essay, not policy, and that's why we have thousands of lists. Andrew D. (talk) 08:33, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This differs from the category in that it is not just a list of the films themselves but it names and categorizes the AI. In fact, it might be more accurate to call this the List of Artificial Intelligences in Films, because that is what distinguishes it from any list of the films themselves. LaMona (talk) 16:41, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Eh, I guess there are enough sources listed above to show that it passes WP:LISTN as a notable topic in its own right. I still don't like having two articles that overlap so much, but I guess one is an unsourced article full of original research in prose format, and the other is an unsourced list. So, there are differences. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:32, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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