Talk:Hotep

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Why is there no mention of the Hotep movement?68.184.146.112 (talk) 19:53, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

old unnamed section[edit]

I added the hieroglyph for the word peace as transcribed by Gardiner and Budge. It's a little blurry but it will do for now until I can find better graphics. I also wanted to prove to the detractors that in this particular case Budge's work can be referenced as valid as both translterations from these Egyptologists are indentical. - Nuwaubian Hotep 23:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

What is the purpose of the main image with the caption, "Standard issue hotep"? I don't understand what it is trying to illustrate, and furthermore it is a badly rendered caricature that seems to have been added and deleted several times. It seems to me that a hieroglyph for 'htp' in vector format would be more suitable for an encyclopedia than this cartoon model. Bigbrisco (talk) 15:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I removed it, but it was reverted with the explanation that the image illustrates "a hotep". I ask then, what is "a hotep"? This article appears to be about an Egyptian word for "peace". How does a 3D-rendered image from a virtual world showing a man in Egyptian attire illustrate that? -kotra (talk) 00:51, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Add Hetep[edit]

I added hetep spelling, call and responce and physical aspect. Hope this is usefull.

--Aunk 04:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The resurrection of Budge[edit]

He wrote, Sir E.A. Wallis Budge, 100 books, 3 per year. No wonder i found a mistake, here and there in his works. i personally am offended by "Critics" who knowe Soo Much, that they have to be 'Right'. Over the 2500 –3000 years of hieroglyphs many individuals created many of their own works. To say Budge shouldn't be referenced is:.... misguided. (from the SonoranDesert AZ).. -Mmcannis 14:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The sun-setting: "going to hotep"[edit]

Egyptian references can be found of the sun through the Night-time being in "hotep"-- Sleep, peace, rest, (satisfied), etc. (from the AZdeserts- -Mmcannis 14:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why is a reference to Gardiner reverted[edit]

- Hotep is an English rendering of a word from the ancient Egyptian language transcribed as htp Gardiner p 579 and 617 = law. The phrase m hotep has been translated to mean literally from law "peace", Gardiner p 583 and 620 "to rest" " be satisfied", "become at peace" and "at ease" as in the Egyptian philosophy of living the life in Ma3t. ^[1]

I moved the sir name use of Hotep to the top of the page. Obviously it carries more weight. Also are you sure that the Egyptian phonetic hp qualifies for Hotep [(htp)] as this glyph is not the same that is used when referenced as a sir name in a title. Finally I couldn't find "m hotep" in Gardiner's work on p.583. What I found was "htp, hr, n,htp,htpw,htp(w), htpt, htpw-ntr,htpt-df3,dbht-htp,dbh, htp di nsw, and shtp" all with varying definitives of "peace" and funerary offerings. At any rate it is quite obvious once again that the definitive for peace is much more prevalent. And pardon, if I've made any errors in my assessment. 21:54, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

References

^ Reader, Greg. "NiankhkhnumKhnumhotep Names United". Retrieved from http://www.egyptology.com/niankhkhnum_khnumhotep/names.

Unreliably sourced statements[edit]

I've flagged up a couple of the "Popular culture" statements as being potentially unreliably sourced. If no reliable sources (in the WP sense of "reliable") can be supplied in reasonable time, I propose deleting the statements. --Kay Dekker (talk) 21:54, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Why the long names?[edit]

A pharaoh like Amenhotep III is commonly known as just that, not the longer Nebmaatre Amenhotep III given here. Why list the throne name when the "hotep" is in the given name? Suggest we given the names in the short familiar form when that includes the "hotep". Orcoteuthis (talk) 17:27, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and shortened since nobody protested in a week. Orcoteuthis (talk) 07:04, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Article scope[edit]

The topic of this seems to be the Egyptian root, and its hieroglyph. This is what Wiktionary is for, at wikt:ḥtp#Egyptian. Keeping this around for a list of people whose name contains the root is no better than to create a page called friþuz (for wikt:friþuz) and use it to give a list of people called Frederick or Fredegar. --dab (𒁳) 08:59, 30 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Reader, Greg. "NiankhkhnumKhnumhotep Names United". Retrieved from http://www.egyptology.com/niankhkhnum_khnumhotep/names.

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