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hello Bub

How's the library business? You'll see that I flicked a crumb off the surface of that Châteauesque article, which you seem to have adopted, in your legendary fashion. D is damn near halfway through law school and honing her skills on "Litigation: the Home Game", but still retains some reassuring gaps in her knowledge. It's growing colder at night and Portland around Homecoming looks like a Norman Rockwell autumn, achingly photogenic, if you can picture a Norman Rockwell autumn peopled by whippet-thin hepcats with sideburns, tattooed piercings and heavy black-frame glasses. Life is rich and strange. There are actually adult kickball leagues up here. Hope you're well, truly. --Lockley (talk) 08:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

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History of fountains in the United States

It seems to me that the list of significant fountains would work better as a table. I, for one, want to be able to see an image of each and be able to compare them. If you agree, I'll start it. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:17, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm starting a table. If you really hate it, you can revert. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:14, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Sure. Decide if you like it. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:42, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

It looks like I just vandalized the page. Moving things into the table uses a lot fewer bytes. Feel free to fill in as you wish. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 21:32, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I guess you can do right or left, or stack them. I had a lot of fun with the table on the Oval Office. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 21:44, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. You're very kind. I'd rather work toward making something better than stew in frustration over it. And it's satisfying. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 21:56, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Philadelphia has a Total Abstinence Fountain left over from the Centennial that's about 50 feet in diameter with lots of sculpture. I created a "Category:Drinking fountains" to put these Temperance fountains. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:39, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm a couple hours ahead of you (and yes, I do get obsessed). Odd that I can't find a PD image of the Thatcher Fountain. Maybe HABS or SIRIS. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:29, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm going to back off for now, so we don't get into more edit conflicts. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 17:43, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't know whether it's good art or not, but I'm particularly fond of this work by Stirling Calder: [1] Freshman year in college, I lived about 100 feet away, and walked by it every day. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:15, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

I agree on dropping "History" from the title of the article. It can be a subject heading. I added the Calder to the Drinking fountains in the United States, along with links to images of works still under copyright. I should start an article on the Centre Square Waterworks; technologically, it's important, and there are nice images. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 12:47, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Unexpected situation in New Orleans. There are TWO Hyams Memorial Fountains in the city, seemingly identical, both with the same Isidore Konti sculptures, but located in different parks:[2] Who wudda thunk? == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:33, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I care. And I'm glad you started them. (Although it's taken time for me to really appreciate them.)

SIRIS only lists one Hyams fountain, which is why it surprised me. I don't know if it was the donor's directive or a cost-saving measure (duplicate statues are cheaper?), but it does seem odd to have identical fountains in the same city only miles apart.

Sorry about the plumbing problems. Nothing funny about that. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:16, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't have access to JSTOR, but I've noticed some of their articles are now free (all, not just the 1st page). == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:09, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

I deleted a sentence you added to the fountains article. The William Rush sculptures Allegorical Figure of the Schuylkill River and Allegorical Figure of the Waterworks are both from 1825. They were never part of the Centre Square Waterworks (1801). Philadelphia outgrew the capacity of the single water tower by the 1810s, and built a reservoir on a hill called "Fairmount," now the site of the Philadelphia Museum of Art. The Fairmount Waterworks was built along the Schuylkill River to pump water up to the reservoir. The two later sculptures were architectural pieces, installed atop two small pavilions.[3] To my knowledge they never adorned fountains. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:01, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations on the bookcases. One can never have too many. Regarding Rush's Water Nymph and Bittern (a bittern is a water bird common on the Schuylkill), a bronze casting was made of the wooden statue, I think in the early 1870s. The bronze casting became the centerpiece of a fountain at the Fairmount Waterworks. Thomas Eakins found the original wooden statue rotting away in storage, and became obsessed with it, leading to his 4 William Rush paintings. The head of the wooden statue survives at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 03:21, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

I have a good friend who's an Eakins scholar, and she argues that Rush probably did not use a nude model. Eakins either assumed/imagined that Rush had, or co-opted the Rush legend to promote what he had been taught in Paris -- the necessity of working from the nude. The most interesting artifact of Eakins's obsession with Rush is the unfinished painting in Honolulu, where Eakins seems to paint himself as Rush.[4] == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:37, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Granted, it's MUCH more fun. My username came from my niece and nephews, after I gave a detailed critique of an obscure American history YouTube video. I prefer to think that they intended that the history was boring, rather than the guy. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:44, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

We have talked about it, more than 2 years ago. I know it's not why you brought it up, but I intended to visit the PMA library to see if they have a full list of the sculptors. (Which I expect they do.) My Eakins scholar works at PMA (and is a delightful luncheon companion). She's urged me to come down, but I haven't been there in about 3 years. High time to go. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:00, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

I did some research in the library about 10 years ago, the librarian, Susan Anderson (another Scandanavian?), was very helpful. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:16, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk page Comments

A US Work pre 1923 is Public domain.

Assuming that both works (statute and photo) are first published in the US , I don't see an issue.

Cite the sources used, and use the credit line the book gives for the indivdiaul photos (if any).

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hi

Hi! Things are pretty good, actually! Please email me when you get a chance! We have some thing to tend to, because Gordon woke up! --Lockley (talk) 21:21, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Carptrash my friend you may be interested in this happy dilemma. --Lockley (talk) 21:47, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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Post Office Murals

Hey Carptrash. Nice to meet you. As you probably noticed I have been adding to the list of Post Office Murals artists. I noticed that you started the list back in Dec 2011. I'm getting most of my names from http://postalmuseum.si.edu/indiansatthepostoffice/mural12.html. I'm tempted to put a reference with each artist (at least for the ones I have added and the ones I will be adding). I don't know how long the list will get or if that is a problem. Please let me know what you think. I appreciate your efforts and wish to collaborate. Ed aka Buster Seven Talk 20:22, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Carptrash. User 32.218.34.24...is that you? Just curious. Seems pretty knowledgeable for someone just born today. ```Buster Seven Talk 23:43, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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List of Post Office Murals title

Thanks for starting this article. Would you consider a name change to "List of U.S. post office murals"? - "U.S." for obvious reasons, plus lowercase "post office murals" per WP:TITLE (see: United States post office murals). Just a thought. 32.218.34.24 (talk) 00:47, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I have no problem, but will discuss it with my collaborator. Carptrash (talk) 01:40, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for starting the James Watrous article. I can work on it in a few days. 32.218.34.24 (talk) 02:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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BTW. It felt great to hear "let me check with my collaborator" Thanks. ```Buster Seven Talk 02:45, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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The Award we were discussing

SShhhh!! It's a secret. No one, especially the editor you have in mind, is supposed to know. If you go to the bottom of User:BlackCab's talk page you will see an example of what I have in mind. I'd leave a trail of bread crumbs but that might be too obvious. Ill leave it to you to figure out the rest. Good Luck! ```Buster Seven Talk 08:06, 17 December 2014 (UTC) OOPPSS!! I meant to "thank" ...not revert....```Buster Seven Talk 17:41, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Somewhere...

I saw Puerto Rico too. Should have added it then but I get confused easily. ```Buster Seven Talk 18:23, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I saw it too. So, you are working down the alphabet and I am going up, let's race to it - though you'll have to get through Pannsylvania to get there. But then, I get New York. hmmmm? Carptrash (talk) 18:40, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Im still in California. They have 1688 WPA projects. Plus the take yer time.....stop and smell the roses vibe is intoxicating. Or maybe its the joint that the guy next to me keeps offering, ```Buster Seven Talk 19:13, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

I gave up editing while drunk several years ago, we all get to make our ounecisions on this sort of thing. Carptrash (talk) 19:16, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

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...I did not see that you running for anything there, or elsewhere for that matter..."

Well it isn't like I didn't want to be in the running for military historian of the year, but the community hasn't nominated me for the award in years (like four or five to be precise) . I had hoped I would at least be nominated this year, but it didn't happen. I guess that's life, and its not the end of the world. At the end of the day it doesn't much change who I am or what I do here, the process merely demonstrates the barometer the project's contributors places on who has done what to warrant a nod and a shot at the year's top awards. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:00, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

I took a glance,TomStar81, at your user page to see what would occur to me and what happened is that I'd find it difficult, if not impossible, to support anyone who feels that Pres. O is holding this nation hostage. Ideally this sort of thing should not make a difference, but I don't live in an ideal world.Carptrash (talk) 03:12, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Everyone be entitled to their opinion, and I grant that this may stop people from looking at me seriously, although you'd think that since Wikipedia operates mostly as a meritocracy there would be some room for forgiveness in people's hearts. Hell I know editors I hardly get along with on here at all and yet I ask them to help when I know that they know better than I do on a given matter. Still, though, you're probably right that it likely isn't doing me any favors. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:19, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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After

the hub-bub of the holidays we'll have to converse about how to gather Images, etc. I understand that because the artist's were government employees their Images are Public Domain I just don't know the "How to..." of moving them from where I find them on the Internet to WP:Commons. There is so much to do and I think useful info is getting lost (by me) in the process of creating the List. I'm collecting Artist Bio stuff at User talk:Buster7/sandbox for future work and, not always, but every now and then, when I go to an Existing Artist WP Article, I'll add info about the mural...but only sometimes. My way seems haphazard and sporadic. I guess I'm asking how you store and categorize all the gobs of info that comes in front of you when your doing a project like The List. I guess I know The List is a long term commitment and I want to start doing things the easiest way. Like I said...mid-January or so...```Buster Seven Talk 16:51, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Piping down the valleys wild

OK - I'll keep that in mind if/when I take another look. (If they haven't been fixed already, I can go ahead and fix the ones I did yesterday.)

Happy to be of help - it's an interesting subject. I like the way the list is coming along. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 17:18, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I've fixed 'em both. As to photos, there's not a lot I can do on that front. (I can try and get some shots of the murals in Arlington in situ...that's the only post office near at hand to me. I can eventually hit some of the ones in the valley - Strasburg, Luray - but that will take more time, and wherewithal that I don't have at the moment.)

What I can do is to add NRHP designations to the list, as I did with Arlington. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 19:16, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps add a NRHP in the notes? I suspect that most of these post offices will be there, so perhaps it needs another column? Carptrash (talk)

I set up a NRHP column in Alabama - both you check it out and see what you think.Carptrash (talk) 19:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Like ```Buster Seven Talk 19:56, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Agreed - it looks great. Maybe a way to distinguish between listed buildings and buildings which are contributing properties to the historic district? Unless the column is for links to articles, in which case never mind. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 20:06, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

What I am thinking, and this NEVER makes it so, is that a YES in that column, if it's a blue link could be a link to either an article about the building or the district that it is a part of. Make sense? Carptrash (talk) 20:18, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

@Carptrash: Enjoy your tea. I can get the NRHP column tomorrow for all while I'm at the Library....(for eight Hours!!!!!) ```Buster Seven Talk 22:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Mom and I are watching University of Colorado-Pueblo in some football bowl game. This is meaningful because the college was co-founded by her father [5]. Enjoy the library, Monday is my day. Carptrash (talk) 22:48, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

When you get a minute...

take a peak @ User:Buster7/Post office mural artists and let me know what you think. It's a beginning. Let me know on the talk page of that "sandbox" TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 17:49, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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show that only 4 states remain for city data to be completed in The List: Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan and Minnesota. TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 16:49, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

"City data?" Not sure what that is. You mean that there might be cities that are red links? We still have a ways to go before we do our version of the great meeting place. Mom is up, so I'm not sure what the next few hours hold in store for me. Carptrash (talk)

` By "city data" I just meant the basic framework (city and state), design and known data input for the list.....which is almost complete except for the four I mentioned. ```Buster Seven Talk 00:56, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Embarrassed. Turns out there are 18 sates that need data entry. So...as Gilda Radner used too say on SNL......"Nevermind!"```Buster Seven Talk 01:44, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Christmas Eve

I spent this evening with extended family. My sister hosted 23 for dinner, and I met new cousins, aged 1-1/2 and 3. My siblings are in our 40s and 50s, and it's easy to forget what it's like to be around small children, and fascinating to watch them make sense of their world.
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Aloha

A wiki-friend from Hawaii just sent me greetings which I pass on to you. Aloha to you and yours. ```Buster Seven Talk 16:54, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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Indeed. (By the by, I know where the footnote is coming from...I'm too lazy to do anything about it. And in about a week it will be consigned to the archive, so I'm not thinking about it much at all for now.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 19:18, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Ay, that 'tis. And 'tis so, indeed. Believe me. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 19:23, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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Ive created....

a new box to put notes into and to work out of. I know you would like to increase the # of article about women and I 100% agree. Anyway, its just an idea to help us stay on track. See User:Buster7/The List - Women Artists. ```Buster Seven Talk 17:21, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

And now, Introducing.....User:Buster7/The List - Men Artists for your enjoyment. ```Buster Seven Talk 00:27, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

• another shoe box which is available for any info you might uncover on the topic. User:Buster7/The List - Indian Murals.```Buster Seven Talk 19:22, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
• also today I started to create an article about Ida Abelman, the first Women on the Women Muralits List and a redlink soon to be a bluelink. Its at Draft:Ida Abelman. Ive only created a few articles in my time, maybe 6, and have never used the "Articles for Creation" pages before. I thought, "What the Heck!", it might be a good idea to learn what a new editor goes thru to get his/her article into WP. I wonder if you (and any friendlies) could swing by there and take a look and tell me what it needs. If you add something, do it in small bites so I can see how it gets done and I can mimic it in the future for other articles. If you could add an "Infobox for artist"...that would be great. I don't know how to do that. I'm gonna add another Reference or two 'cause Ive heard that the more references the better as far as passing the submission process. Thanks! Buster Seven Talk 01:45, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

I have...

the same vanity. I think our work on The List will vault us right to the top. By the way...just the other day WP had 4,567,890 articles. (notice the sequence). I think the odd part is that I noticed that. TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 15:57, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

The top is a long way off, but then so is the end of this total project. I am a date watcher too, recently caught 10/12/14 and 12/13/14, for example. So nice catch on the wikipedia articles number. Carptrash (talk) 16:02, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Stripped Classicism

Comments. Needs your input and help. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 02:02, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

You may be interested

in this discovery I just found a few minutes ago. I haven't the time to investigate it right now but it sure looks interesting. Maybe you already know about it???. Collaborating with you is the most interesting and stimulating thing I have done on WP. Thanks for that! TRA!```Buster Seven Talk 18:50, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

No, to quote Sargent Schultz, "I know nothing!" about that interesting site. Another goldmine? Meanwhile, having 3,000 articles on my watch list, I have been enticed into creating a new article, New Formalism (architecture) - out of a discussion at Stripped Classicism. And then Mom woke up in the middle of everything, so it has been a wild morning so far. And yes, our, "little" project has been immensely satisfying and is bordering on a life long venture. I have a binder somewhere of my mural slides, but have not been able to locate it since my move. My guru was fond of saying. "Life is supposed to be interesting. This is how the universe expands." Carptrash (talk) 19:00, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. There is no foreseeable end to this project and it already has expanded my life...WP and real. My wife and I have even started to write a rough draft for a novel, The Muralist, about a multi-personality serial killer that is as charming as can be until someone criticizes his work. Love, Sex and great tunes from the '30s and '40s (for the Movie adaptation). He goes from town to town over the life of "the Section of Fine Arts" assuming different names (there are so many interesting ones to choose from) and wardrobes and interesting "peccadilloes---->(busterism). Johnny Depp would be perfect for the part. TRA! ```Buster Seven Talk 20:30, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, this does explain who some of these artists are and why I can find nothing on them. Meanwhle I'll be looking for music too. MCarptrash (talk) 21:32, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

I see you're still "going postal," and I'm imbibing too much "Pabst." Whatever floats your/our boat(s). Happy New Year! == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Cheers. This early it's milk and kalua for me. Mom's back to sleeping so I want to finish Ohio. Big place. Carptrash (talk) 18:57, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Heres a 6 pack for your evenings pleasure. Enjoy! You'd better drink fast. I'm sure some bot will swoop by and steal them because of copyright infringement. Yappy New Hear! ```Buster Seven Talk 22:46, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks all, I am drinking as fast as I can, so will probably beat the copyright folks. Carptrash (talk) 02:06, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Carptrash!

Happy New Year!

Carptrash,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 00:57, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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in recognition

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		For the creation of New Formalism (architecture), for your more general patient efforts to document architectural styles on wikipedia, and for keeping your smiling good humor, common sense and constructive attitude against occasional ill forward winds, Citizen Carptrash you are hereby awarded the Barnstar of High Culture! --Lockley (talk) 22:00, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Me again

A new year's present: I created Category:American sculptors by century and three daughter categories this afternoon. There is much yet to do on the subject, but this is a good start, I think. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 22:03, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

That came as something of a surprise to me, too, actually. Happy to be of help. I've been doing some more manual categorization, but there's still a lot that needs doing, I think. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 00:47, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I know. It keeps me awake at night. (Well...it doesn't really. But it comes close sometimes.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 00:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

(artist)

This morning the disam bot told me about 5 or 6 which I took care of. But it reminded me to let you know why I am adding (artist) and letting it "show up" on The List. In a week or two we will be done with the basic Info and we will {individually) "wander" around the List, fixing things, filling in gaps, researching for NRHP listings (two of the PO disams from this morning are NRHP but I didn't take the time to add them to The List, etc. etc. We will continue our collaboration and chop away at the many options available as to "what to do first". For me, it changes everyday. So...I thought that by letting {artist) show up on The List I would create article for those artists first...gotta start somewhere. Feel free to let me know if one task is more important than another. I'm In Plano, IL today. TRA!```Buster Seven Talk

So here's what I just ran into, updating an artist (Edward Laning). The New York Times. in his obit, has him painting murals for the Works Progress Administration. Since his PO mural was not under the WPA but the Federal Art Project should I remove a NYT reference as being unreliable? I think not. I will just add my own. But you are right, we have a ton of cleanup to do and then . . . ... let the (stub) games begin. Carptrash (talk) 15:50, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

You will have to go into teacher mode when the stub games begin....I'll just watch what you do and repeat.```Buster Seven Talk 22:29, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Half-way thru NY

Unless I'm mistaken (which has/does/will happen) as soon as I finish New York (which should happen Tomorrow) I think we have all the 50 states + DC. Then the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico. Finito-Stage One. Agreed??? ```Buster Seven Talk 01:04, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
After That my plan is to go thru, from top to bottom, and check for any little editing fixes or mis-directed Blue links or whatever I find. I don't think there are many at all since we both seemed to clean-up each state once we finished it. ```Buster Seven Talk 01:14, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Proposition

Dear Carptrash, I think I like you. From MI? moved to OR? me too. Detroit & Port sanilac. I see you wrote over 100 WikiP articles. your name pops up on the history of many of the articles I browsed. Good. I'm looking for someone to write (enter) an article. people tell me That I need a wikipedia article and I believe them because I'm broke and they arent. Someone said I cant write my own article. its against the rules. Is said,"Well, Duh~!) Im ana rtist. artists cant appear to blow their own horns. its against the rules. they have to get others to blow them. (That doesnt sound the way I meant.) So, if its not against the rules or insulting or some other infraction of the WikiP world, would you consider authoring my article? i will compensate you with.... wait for it.....ART!! i will give you a work Im selling for $100. http://www.jpallas.com/EPU/EPU.HTM Furthermore, I will give you enough material that will make writing the entry a breeze. I hope you find none of this offensive. Please let me know if you're at all interested. thanks. Jim Pallas oregon City Jpallas (talk) 05:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

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Einar

I have had intermittent Internet serviced for a few days. A 'Tech" is coming today. Before I lose connection, I noticed that some of the states in the List do not have references. I forget which one of us did them so I'm reluctant to just plug in the one I used most...Living New Deal. The states are SoDakota, SoCarolina, Road Island, Port-o-rico, Penn., and Oreegone. Can you ref the ones you did? I'll assume the ones you leave un-done will be the ones I did. TRA! Buster Seven Talk 15:43, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Will do. Some day (over a beer or two is best) I'll tell you about the Duffeeland Dog Park Club, but it is taking a lot of time now, hopefully that ends soon. I don't mind putting my reference on everything unreferenced because it is pretty much the same info as you have. I also need to reference the NRHP info with I am getting from one web site. A very good one. Carptrash (talk) 01:40, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

tech is gone. He plugged in a new modem and every thing is fine. BTW...I believe you are in Albuquerque. My daughter attended U of New Mexico for her Masters in Education. So....we visited her a few times and loved the desert. I have a petrified log in our back yard...they wanted like $1o-15 dollars for small chunks and I figured "why not pay a little more and get one BIG chunk". Anyway...Beer sounds good....in the middle somewhere. Buster Seven Talk 01:51, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I was in Dixon, New Mexico for most of my editing career, but am now with Mom in Sun City, Arizona. My wife is a UNM graduate and my daughter briefly attended but did her really school work elsewhere. i often pine for NM, AZ is not really a very good fit for me. Carptrash (talk) 04:15, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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Ida Abelman

I took the Draft:Ida Abelman articles live just a minute ago and within seconds a BOT clamped onto it. I could use some of your expertise and maybe a re-write. Thanks. Buster Seven Talk 14:36, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

• I added my name to the list of members. Buster Seven Talk 14:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your help w/ Ida above. How do YOU create a new bio article? Do you create it off-WP and then cut-n-paste it here? In order to forego all the potential problems that a new article experiences, I've started another new mural artist article at User talk:Buster7/Sandbox-Rosa's law. I figure this way I can work on the article trouble free, you can help me understand better than the other (more formal) way, and when its ready, I'll just Cut-n-paste it into mainspace. Good Idea? or is there a better way? Buster Seven Talk 15:11, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

I moved User talk:Buster7/Sandbox-Rosa's law. I will now create asst "User:B7/I.Ema.Artist" type pages. Buster Seven Talk

I saw that you have created a "Works in Progress (WiP)" section on your User Page. Great Idea! I have done the same on mine. This way we can check each others work so we don't duplicate efforts. Ive also added a mention of the "WiP" pages at the Mens List and at the Womens List. My problem is that I forget where I put stuff...I need a note to remind me where the note that reminds me is.... I know I started a "WiP" page on Frances Ankrom somewhere but I can't remember where. Did Edith Barry go live? TRA!Buster Seven Talk 15:50, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

People are being very nice to me ...

... which is gratifying, but also a little strange. I'm used to just being a lone wolf. Hope you're well and happy. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:28, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

So I now see that you're behind a good deal of this. Thank you. Your nomination was exceptionally kind and humbling. I'll try to live up to it. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 21:02, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Edith Barry

The book Wall-to-Wall America says that she was from Kennebunk----"Edith Barry was a local girl." (Pg. 272)....not from nearby Kennebunkport. I'll await your confirmation before changing the article and the List#Maine entry which states the mural is in Kennebunkport.Buster Seven Talk 08:58, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I have two copies, hard cover and paperback, of Wall to Wall America and can't find either. Go ahead and add that info and reference. I believe that she was a KKennebunk "woman" and to a girl, having moved there after she was married. But it is a nice quote, so belongs. Carptrash (talk) 15:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Also, this [[6]] is a sort of amusing bit about trying to move the article. Carptrash (talk) 15:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

So...I guess the message is that That way of creating an article is fraught with problems and should be avoided. Drat! Buster Seven Talk 19:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

A way around it

1. . you create a draft...like this...User:Buster7/Joseph Fleck,
2. . when its ready, you cut and paste the whole thing,
3. . put "Joseph Fleck" in the search box which will bring up the "There is no-such article" page,
4. . create the new page...and bingo...Bob's your uncle. Buster Seven Talk 19:58, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
5. . you put {-{db-user}-} on the draft...and in seconds it disappears.

Joseph Fleck has gone "live". ...User:Buster7/Joseph Fleck has been terminated. Buster Seven Talk 23:20, 15 January 2015 (UTC),

Looks as if you solved the "going live" issues that plagued Edith Barry. Well done. Carptrash (talk) 18:48, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

askart.com

What do you think of this site as a reference? Ive come across it a bunch of times today as I look for information to add to the Women/Men Lists in preparation of creating articles. If it doesn't "pass muster" as a ref, how about just as a verifier of fact? Buster Seven Talk 23:25, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

I think it is fine, just be sure and footnote it. Carptrash (talk) 00

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Talk

Thanks for the advice! I'm relatively new but will start to clean up the article more and integrate. Hoping to add a few more artists as well. Weiwillwang (talk) 01:56, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Belle Baranceanu

I spent a little time this morning at Belle Baranceanu and I have a general "Should I make a change" question. I think the Sections are miss-labeled. What is called "Notes" should be called "References" and what is called "References" should be called "See also". Wouldn't that be more consistent with most other WP "bios"??? Buster Seven Talk 14:41, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

I just replaced the "Notes" heading with "References". 2 of the 3 previous "references" were included in the notes section already. One got left off. Carptrash (talk) 16:52, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

So...making changes like that are more in line with the accepted Method of Style for these bios. Thanks! Buster Seven Talk 17:00, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, the Carptrash Manual of Everything. I am not a big reader of rules and procedures. If I screw up there are lots out there willing to point it out.Carptrash (talk) 17:07, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

User:LadyofShalott/Frank Fleming (sculptor)

Want to work on that together? Maybe it could actually make it out of the sandbox! LadyofShalott 17:54, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I will continue to feel free to edit it. I am mostly working on a monstrous project after which (or even during) Buster7 and I are writing stubs of mostly women artists that we have discovered in the process. The list is between 50 and 75 (I was never good at math) names, as it stands. But I will keep an eye open on/for Frank too. Thanks for the invite. Carptrash (talk) 18:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Dead White men

Responding to your question on my talk page, When the prior editor wrote that "Sculptor Janet Scudder had DWM's roles as subjects for sculpture in mind when ........." they were presuming to summarize what was thereafter quoted. However neither the actual term used "DWM"[sic], nor the term 'deceased white men' were actually used by the author quoted, thus effectively making the quote the opinion of the editor/quoter, not the person quoted. Thank you for not reverting my edit. QuintBy (talk) 04:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Warhol

This autograph and sketch by Andy Warhol that you uploaded - File:Warhol autograph.jpg - did you get that from him personally? Could you tell us approximately when and where? What year, at least? DS (talk) 15:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

My late father-in-law got it from him personally in a book published in 1970, so it probably was about then. Carptrash (talk) 16:11, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Ethel Edwards

Great - thanks for letting me know. I've added a little bit to it to flesh it out a bit more. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao<sup>Che dicono a Signa?</sup><sub>Lo dicono a Signa.</sub> 17:28, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

On Sabbatical

Due to some recent events @ WP:WER I will be relatively inactive as far as WP editing for a few days. I will be reading and harvesting info for our collaboration...I just won't be adding it or doing any article creation. Maybe I will work on the draft for my novel The Muralist: Tales of Murals and Murder in the Great Depression. You wikifriendship and our List and the subordinate work surrounding it has become a haven for me. Its good to have a comfortable spot to rest in. Buster Seven Talk 14:23, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Carptrash regarding this photo

Hello, My grandfather has just passed away and he is pictured to the left. We have the negative and can name the other individuals for he has them labeled in his photo. I am wondering if you are a relative of any of the others for I would like more information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.179.204.215 (talk) 15:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

I am guessing that you are referring to this picture? I am not a relative of anyone but would very much like to correspond with you about my interest in the shot and about any information that you might have. Over in the TOOLS section to the right there is an Email this User tab. Please send me an email and we can continue our discussion. Carptrash (talk) 18:37, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

You tried to help me with my Edward Mahon article. I was hoping to take another crack at it, but I cannot get the messed up template out of my sandbox to start again. Why is there not a simple way to clear it out for beginners like me who will make mistakes and want to bail out for a new start? Have you a way of doing it. The account is Otmarpub. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Otmarpub (talk • contribs) 05:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

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howard robert robbins kentucky florida

I believe this site has received some inaccurate information on how my father was killed.He was not crossing a road.All reports ,so far, show he was walking along side of the road.

I am sorry about your loss. I removed "while crossing the road" because it was not found in the reference given. If you have other sources that offer more information please send me the links to them. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Jimmy Emerson

Does that name ring a bell? You and I see it all over the place. He is a photographer that has taken many, many, photos of murals all around the country. He especially seems to like post office murals. I wonder if we could contact him some how and ask if he would like his images prominently displayed in one of the most special and ground-breaking lists in the history of Wikipedia. Just thinking out loud. . Buster Seven Talk 16:50, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I have found a number of people on flickr (I have an account there myself) that take mural pictures, but so far have not gotten an answer from any of the ones I've tried to contact. Might as well keep trying. Carptrash (talk) 19:27, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Stone carving image

I was able to check and confirm that the Bas-Relief dates back to late 19th century CE. It is a revival piece that was made at a moment when Iranians were really excited about celebrating their ancient heritage. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. AM (talk) 17:49, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Strange pairing

What a bizarre juxtaposition it is to build a fountain featuring centaurs and mythical creatures alongside a sculpture group depicting a historical event. Certainly, Saint-Gaudens loved to insert his goddesses, but they represented the goals/ideals/accomplishments of the sculpture's subject. I'm sure there are other examples of strange pairings, but this strikes me as particularly odd. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 18:26, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

these two groups were done a very different times and were only paired here for reasons that line in someone else's brain. And yes, it is a bit disconcerting where you are there. Carptrash (talk) 19:34, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Your application at WP:SLR

Hello Carptrash, I saw your application, but I'm sorry that the project is now defunct. I tried to close it when the Sri Lanka Civil War ended, but some people felt it was better to keep it open, but de facto nobody was watching it, so your application got overlooked. I just saw it now that I'm writing a comment about it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Editor Retention#where else would an exclusive, member-restricted WikiProject help? . — Sebastian 10:26, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me about the WikiProject Sri Lanka Reconciliation. Sri Lanka and what happened there has always been a difficult thing for me. I lived in Sri Lanka - then Ceylon. from 1952 until 1965 and found the Civli war to be a very distressing topic. but on that I would on occasion want to engage in. Anyway, thai you for the update. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 19:40, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

That must have been an interesting time, during the first steps of a newly independent country. Since you have a serious interest, I will approve your application, and since I believe it very unlikely that there will be objections, you would be a member just in time for the project to close. When I wrote my message to you, I felt ambivalent about using the word "sorry". On one hand, I am sorry that it ended, because for me it was a very meaningful and rewarding time. On the other hand, the reason that it ended is that the civil war ended, which is even more than I dared to dream when we started the project. — Sebastian 20:25, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

It always amazes me how small the circle of collaborating editors can be. I am a coordinator at WP:WER and saw your note there this morning. And then, this afternoon, here you are at my friend Einars page sharing memories. This place is better than Facebook!!!!. Buster Seven Talk 21:35, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello Buster7, WP:WER seems like a very worthwhile endeavour; thanks for participating there.
Take a look at Einar's application; isn't this a nice poem? I am sad that the application got overlooked for so long; there was still a little bit of action going on on the talk page, where Carptrash would have fit in nicely. I am now going to drink to you and your friend's health with a cup of Dilmah tea from Nilagama! — Sebastian 17:41, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Alexander Stirling Calder

Stirling Calder died January 7, 1945, which is now more than 70 years ago, so are images of his works now free at last? == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 20:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

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I nominate Einar aka Carptrash as Editor of the Week. In early Dec I contacted him about editing the Post Office Murals article which he had started back in Dec 2011. As is the way of things here at WP we began to collaborate on a new artcle, the List of United States post office murals. We both immersed ourselves into creating the article and had a wonderful time. I learned many new things from "Carp" and know I will learn many more as we both expand articles related to "The List". I was searching for something more formidable and long-lasting to do as an editor and, with his sharing and input and mentoring, I have found my "niche". Thank you, Einar, for the 285 articles you have created.

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Thanks again for your efforts! Go Phightins! 18:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)