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Copyright problem on Henry Hugh Gordon Stoker

I did attempt to paraphrase the source material but if you think it still to closely followed the wording of the source that’s ok, your edit seems good to me. Thanks --Knightmare 3112 (talk) 22:44, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

It was enough alike to get flagged by our CopyPatrol bot. Thanks for having a look. — Diannaa (talk) 00:20, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Copyright problem on Marine sediment

Hi Diannaa. An editor is failing a GA review for this article on the grounds of plagiarism. Would you mind assessing whether there is plagiarism? — Epipelagic (talk) 21:49, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

 Working— Diannaa (talk) 21:54, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Well, I commented, but they've already quick-failed the GA bid. Sorry, — Diannaa (talk) 22:08, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes. Savage. I'm concerned about what it means for a CC 4.0 license if you modify the text. At present, following an earlier suggestion of yours, I add Material was copied from this source, which is available under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License to a citation when I have copied the text. In practice, the text often needs editing. Will it satisfy the requirements of the license if I change this to read (in the specific case of text) something like: Modified text was copied from this source, which is available under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. Regards. — Epipelagic (talk) 22:42, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

As an additional issue, the reviewing editor has tagged the article in this manner. Is this a correct use of that tag? — Epipelagic (talk) 22:51, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Re:the license. It does specify that if the text has been modified, we need to say so. So that's a good amendment. I am not sure I agree with tagging for over-quotation, as it's not in quotation marks. Which makes the tag kinda meaningless.— Diannaa (talk) 01:49, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Epipelagic: The fact that it was a quote rather than original text is the issue here. Regardless of whether or not there are actually quotation marks present, they are still quotes of text from those sources. The MOS frowns upon articles consisting of large portions of non-original text. It recommends that editors write their articles with their own, original words. I realize these are tertiary sources so this practice isn't explicitly forbidden as it is for primary sources, but I would advise trimming down the usage of non-original text. We are allowed to incorporate pieces of free work into our articles, but it needs to be a reasonable amount rather than entire sections. The article would be in much better shape if it were to be written in mostly original text and have multiple citations in the large number of areas that are currently sourced with just a single source. Noah^Talk 03:16, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah: As I pointed out to you elsewhere, MOS is concerned with text that is under a copyright which does not permit copying. Where does MOS say you may not copy text verbatim when it has been released under a license that specifically allows the text to be copied verbatim? How come you are so hasty with your judgments and so sure MOS is all about how you think? There has been a sea change in academic scientific publications over the last few years, and far far more of them are being published under CC licences. That includes a lot of review articles. It would be crazy for Wikipedia not to leverage that situation. It means if editors work this area skillfully they should be able to at least double their output. I resent being treated in this arrogant, high-handed manner by you, Hurricane Noah. Diannaa, should this issue be opened to wider community discussion? — Epipelagic (talk) 03:14, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

@Epipelagic: Just renominate the article and get a different reviewer if you disagree. Noah^Talk 04:01, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual Television Characters

Hi Diannaa, Is it ok to use "https://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/tv-characters.html" as a reference and input the shows into the list with my own "notes" in the notes section? I can make sure I don't use any wording from the reference site. I wanted to confirm. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gary1227 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't know. Who is David Wyatt and what makes his website a reliable source?— Diannaa (talk) 22:07, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Another goat for you!

Thankyou for your feedback!

Ldq131121 (talk) 05:55, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! See you around.— Diannaa (talk) 14:59, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Spider-Man: No Way Home

Hi Diannaa, happy new year. A report was filed at WP:ANEW involving a user repeatedly adding very large plot additions to the article. The plot, as added by the user, is a copy of the Plot section at the fan website. Unfortunately, I cannot tell whether the user copied it from the fansite or the fansite is a mirror. Can you take a look? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:00, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Bbb23, hope you had a nice holiday season. Like Wikipedia, Fandom pages are wikis, and it's possible to check the page history. To do so, click on the three dots and then select History. I have checked the current version of the page and while there's some overlap with the Fandom version, the plot sections are different. Checking our version Wikiblame using the phrase "As dawn breaks, Parker confronts the Goblin alone" shows that phrase is unique to the Fandom version and did not appear in our version until it was added today. So the Fandom plot section developed independently. Removing it and replacing with the version written by Wikipedians is a Good thing, as the Fandom version is at 1581 words is more than double the recommended length for our wiki. I would not do revision deletion on these edits because Fandom is compatibly licensed, it's not a copyright violation per se but a violation of the license terms.— Diannaa (talk) 14:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

As always, thanks very much for looking and explaining.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:43, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Meanwhile on Twitch (by way of YouTube)

The surprising return of. Oh Charlie... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Happy belated New Year! El_C 17:58, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, or what passes for happiness in Alberta. "High of -27°C" — Diannaa (talk) 21:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Heh, -40°C windchill: respect. I remember visiting Edmonton a few years back at the dead of winter. We went to the Mall! El_C 23:18, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

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18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Removal of quote from Energetically Modified Cement page

I see you have removed the quotes from Lord Turner and Lord Stern that I put on there. Interesting. This is your justification: "remove quotations; there's no reason why original prose could not be prepared"? If you visited the EMC Website, which is where I saw it, you will its states that the EMC Organization was not consulted

https://lowcarboncement.com/proven-tech

Therefore, your justification for removing my addition seems spurious and based on supposition rather than checking for yourself first. I am assuming that you are making some sort of conclusion that somehow the EMC Organization influenced or somehow promoted the outcome of the said report, which is a thinktank comprised of some of the leading economic thinkers and industrialists?

I assume you at least looked at the report you removed reference to? If you can see any reference in that report that it was paid for, any evidence at all to back up your assertion warranting your removal (i.e. assuming I understood your reasoning correctly), could you state it please? If not your behavior seems capricious. But, then, maybe there is a rule on Wikipedia about third party articles which says it has to be proven that it was not self promoted for inclusion? If so can you point it to me, if indeed that was your objection.

I'll put it simply, I don't understand your justification which strengthens the impression you have acted capriciously. I don't want to sound harsh which is why I think you need to be forthcoming.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.79.80 (talk) 01:16, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

UPDATE: I think I've understood the objection, which if it had been more accurately expressed, I think was a copyright issue (???). I've addressed this now by reinserting the references but without the quotes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.79.80 (talk) 02:01, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

The problem is that Wikipedia is for the most part written by Wikipedians in their own words. We only use quotations when there's no alternative. Content from your sources should be summarized in your own words, not copy-pasted into articles. — Diannaa (talk) 02:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Got it and thanks for the insight Diannaa :)

Sandbox revdel

Hey Diana, back when I was new to Wikipedia and didn't understand the copyright policy, I copy-pasted some non-free text into my sandbox while drafting an article. Could you revdel from here to here, since keeping these up would probably be copyvio? AryKun (talk) 12:20, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for reporting this.— Diannaa (talk) 14:51, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Body of light

Greetings. Could you take a look at this article. I'm getting a pretty significant copyvio hit, from this source. However I can't determine when the source was created. This is a new article, but part of it was merged from Astral body. But I can't determine if this is a case of WP:MIRROR or not. Other than the copyvio issue, the article's in pretty rough shape with Fork and Citation issues, but they can be dealt with after the copyvio. Thanks. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:18, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

It looks like the overlapping content actually came from Astral body in a recent merge. Even now, the two articles have a huge overlap.— Diannaa (talk) 13:48, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for taking a look. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 02:16, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcoming Note

I certainly look forward to a long stay here. However, some of the reviewers and moderators here are a bit rude. Some dew to their privilege goes about harassing and/or bullying newbies. I wouldn't mind getting a mentor here, if that's okay. Kind regards. Offi gems (talk) 15:50, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Offi gems. Sorry but I don't have any experience mentoring new Wikipedians. A good place to go where there's experienced people ready to help is the Teahouse. — Diannaa (talk) 15:52, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

in friendship

January songs

in friendship

Thank you for being around! - Happy new year, in friendship! - One of my pics was on the Main page, DYK, and even made it to the stats. - In this young year, I enjoyed meetings with friends in real life, and wish you many of those. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!— Diannaa (talk) 12:08, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Copyright problem on Printmakers Council

Thank you for inviting me to discuss this issue on your talk page. I was very surprised to see part of my addition to this page taken down. I could only find one surce for the organisations history. I rewote the information in my own words editing turning 4 pages of text into a single paragraph summary. With detailed subject matter such as this and a single source it is inevitable there will be repetition of words but there was no direct quoting and no sentances were directly lifted. The source was published, in the public domain, referenced and directly relevant to the article it was being used. I work with copyright as part of my job on a regular basis especially in relation to database rights and including third party copyrighted material in databases and would never intentionally breach someones copyright. I will not be re-editng this page and please be reasure I always have copyright issues in mind when contributing to wikipedia. Shaun Sheep (talk) 12:50, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

The source webpage is not in the public domain. Under current copyright law, literary works are subject to copyright whether they are tagged as such or not. No registration is required, and no copyright notice is required. So please always assume that all material you find online is copyright. Exceptions include works of the US Government and material specifically released under license. Even then, proper attribution is required. Content you added to the history section and regarding the 2008 exhibition was nearly identical to that found on the source webpage.— Diannaa (talk) 00:01, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Suzana Joumaa

hello @Diannaa: can you help me to review the article and let me know if it is ready to main space and if you can move it, I will be grateful to you thank you so much --Wikipeida From Saudi Arabia (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

The draft has been deleted as G5— Diannaa (talk) 00:03, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Aulonochares

Hi Diannaa, Came across Aulonochares while reviewing and it range alot of bells with Earwig for copyvio. The sections are all presented in quotes and I'm not sure if the source is copyright protected or not. Could you take a look please? Happy New Year and Regards. Hughesdarren (talk) 22:21, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Most of the quotation has now been removed by the page creator. — Diannaa (talk) 00:05, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Chadha

Can you please hide this, like you do for copyright violations. [1] Venkat TL (talk) 12:38, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for reporting.— Diannaa (talk) 15:37, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Editor of the Week

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User:Sennecaster submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

I am more than happy to nominate Editor Diannaa}}. Her article work features multiple million and half million awards, plus enough copyediting to land her in the GOCE Hall of Fame. But more prominently, and possibly what other editors see the most, is her copyright work spanning over a decade. She does this with endless patience, civility, and knowledge. It is basically policy in copyright to ask Diannaa if we struggle with anything. She rules the CopyPatrol leaderboard, with over 85,000 closed cases, and had done significant work on multiple cases at CCI. She is an editor and admin that many people, including myself, respect and even aspire to be like. This award was seconded by User:Firefly, User:Berrely and User:Davey2010.

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